This is the type of discussion I'm referring too. Here is a perfect example of why commons components would benefit from separate "users" lists. Users are not interested in the same discussion issues as developers, the commons users list is ill adapted to the cross pollination "developer" paradigm. Commons Users wish to discuss issues related specifically to the component they are using while Commons developers wish to maintain maximum interaction with other Commons components to optimize code reuse and experience.

Lets be clear here. I do not want to see math "development" issues occur on a list separate from the other components. I do not want to see any Commons Component start is own "dev list". Nor do I want to see math separate from the commons. I want to see math user issues on a separate list, in fact I think any Commons project should have the option to produce their own users list as a means to provide user support for the component independent of the other components.

What I'm talking about is "User Support", which should be of great importance to the community, as important as developer interaction.

After a great deal of discussion, maybe this subject should be voted on to bring the subject to completion. Otherwise, it will just get more heated.

-Mark

Kim van der Linde wrote:

--- Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



It seems that you are missing the single most
important facet of Jakarta Commons here - community.





Commons is one community,


A community from whom? Whom are in it? Only hard-core developers? Or the developers and users at large? Apparently, I have a different idea about e-mail lists than most here. So be it.


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