On 9 Dec 2004, at 23:18, simon wrote:
On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 11:52, Martin Cooper wrote:This sure doesn't sound like Commons Logging would be "an ultra-thin bridge between different logging libraries" any more.
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/logging/
This sounds more like a different package altogether. IMO, we have enough trouble as it is with some people resisting adding a dependency on Commons Logging that the last thing I want to see is a bunch more functionality - and size - added to this component.
It looks to me like the changes will be just a couple of fairly simple new classes for globalisation, and a couple of trivial methods to support the JSR-47 "finer" log level. I don't think that's a big deal.
The "repackaging" of the logging library to separate the "interfaces" from the log-library-specific adapters is something that has already been proposed on this list, and clearly will *reduce* jar file size (though add complexity by forcing users to deploy two jars instead of one).
the reason why this repackage has never happened is that (given the state of coupling of the current code) it caused many more problems than it was worth. i would like to see the package refactored so that the minimal compilation time code is completely separated from the implementation. however, i've also come to the conclusion that the only way to do this is by a radical move (one possible way to achieve this would be by using byte code engineering to perform the wiring).
- robert
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