On 11 Dec 2004, at 02:24, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
It disturbs me that what seems to me to be a reasonable and small set of
requirements --- along with what appears to have been considerable
forethought based upon real world issues, and experiences supporting many
developers --- appears to be discounted a bit too out of hand. I hope my
perception is wrong.
Does anyone really dispute the requirement to support localization for log
messages or the additional JSR-mandated logging requirements? If not, then
let's work constructively towards satisfying the requirements. And not by
relying upon some IDE's tooling.
IMHO given the amount of grief that the commons-logging team (richard included) has suffered over the years, i'm glad that we're actually discussing the issues before launching code on unsuspecting millions. i'd much rather that people speak up and voice their concerns now when we can actually acknowledge them and (at the very least) document reasons for rejecting.
we've been stuck for a number of years with a flawed API. with more discussion, it might have been possible to fix them at the start. i'd hope that we (as a community) have learnt from that (bitter) experience and would be a little more willing to encourage a full and frank discussion.
- robert
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