Hoi,
Thanks for using understandable English.
GerardM

On 24 June 2014 21:24, Rama Neko <[email protected]> wrote:

> The question of deleted images on Commons is exactly isomorphic to the
> various Wikipedias refusing to host copy-pasted material taken from Cthulhu
> knows where. And I have never heard anybody suggest that Wikipedia would be
> more "reliable" is it accepted such material. I fail to see why it should
> be otherwise when Commons is concerned.
>
> Oh and David Gerard, would you please stop your two-pence Darth Vader act?
> "Ksshhh Ksshhh, doesn't want to be regarded as a problem, Kssshhh, it needs
> to behave less like one, Kssshhh ksshhh". Seriously, it's embarassing.
>   -- Rama
>
>
>
> On 24 June 2014 18:36, Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Commons isnt damaged that needs to be routed around, the laws are an ass
>> and problems will follow where ever, except to maybe a handful of countries
>> who don't give a fluffy duck about copyright.
>>
>> the problem is communication between projects, thats fixable
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 June 2014 00:29, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24 June 2014 17:25, Chris McKenna <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > The problem is that people from other projects are uploading files in
>>> a good
>>> > faith understanding that Commons will look after them, as they work on
>>> the
>>> > principle that unless something is provably unfree then it is
>>> acceptable to
>>> > host.
>>> > Unfortunately, Commons actually operates on the principle that if
>>> there a
>>> > possibility that someone somewhere may in future claim that a file is
>>> > unfree, with or without proof, and with or without merit to the claim,
>>> then
>>> > it cannot be held unless we have proof (of a higher standard than
>>> required
>>> > by professional copyright lawyers) that the file is completely free in
>>> the
>>> > US and the source country, now and at all conceivable future times,
>>> then it
>>> > must be deleted. There is also a great reluctance to engage with
>>> anyone who
>>> > has a lesser understanding of copyright than the self-educated and
>>> > self-appointed experts on Commons, and with anyone who has a lesser
>>> grasp of
>>> > English than they do. There is an equal reluctance to let anyone using
>>> the
>>> > images know that there are questions about a file.
>>> > Until this attitude changes, Commons is not and cannot be a reliable
>>> host of
>>> > media for other projects, and usage as such must be deprecated and an
>>> > alternative, reliable service project initiated.
>>>
>>>
>>> +1. Commons is behaving like damage that needs to be routed around.
>>>
>>>
>>> - d.
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