Hi McTim :-) indeed you are being pedantic. However the point is the same whether we are discussing 10 members or 100. A level of response is expected from those we elect to oversee our organisation as members which we also hold in trust for the wider community.
> On 16 Jun 2017, at 11:13 pm, McTim <mctimconsult...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Badru, > > To be absolutely pedantic, the dues paying Members elect the Board, > not the "Community", where the Community = fee payers+ interested > parties. > > For the purpose of policy making, we are all equal. For the purpose > of asking questions regarding financial matters, I believe the fee > paying folks have greater standing. > > just my 2 bob, > > McTim > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Badru Ntege > <badru.nt...@nftconsult.com> wrote: >> Chair >> >> With all due respect the list of questions in a way underpin my worry. In a >> bottom up environment we are all equal and the board and organization serve >> the community. >> >> For clarity the community elects the board, the then board hires the CEO >> who then hires the staff so community communications goes to board and >> chair. >> >> CEO has a dual roll of being staff and board member and thus his right to >> respond directly to comments. >> >> In my understanding CEO can also authorize staff to respond to issues if he >> so wishes. >> >> Should you respond to all queries ?? I personally think responding to some >> and ignoring others could be taken wrongly by the individual who raises what >> they think is a pertinent issue. >> >> Why my concern ?? I think over the last few months many comments have been >> ignored or answered after prompt from the sender. >> >> On a number of occasions like bellow we have been given information which >> turns out to be wrong. Like the issue raised about recovered resources. >> >> I'm sure I need not go further. It just seems community is becoming a >> nuisance to you at times which is unfortunate. And I read this from your >> email above and the questions paused >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 16 Jun 2017, at 18:32, Sunday Folayan <sfola...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Badru, >> >> Kindly explain or clarify the gap you have observed, so we can correct this. >> >> I believe to the best of my ability that as chair and on behalf of the >> Board, I have engaged on matters directed at us, even when they clearly >> border on operational issues. >> >> It would also be helpful if you further confirm one or more of these to help >> me see how to lead the board to intervene so as to improve things: >> >> 1. Should Board and staff respond to all issues, and are they obliged to do >> so? >> >> 2. Should Chair or CEO acknowledge all questions and routes to an >> appropriate person? >> >> 3. Chair or CEO acknowledges all posts and provides an estimated response >> time?. >> >> 4. Should members explicitly address chair or CEO in discussions instead of >> "can someone respond?" >> >> 5. Should members directly write Afrinic instead of posting urgent questions >> on the mailing lists? >> >> 6. Should Afrinic policy liaison monitors the lists and brings noteworthy or >> urgent issues to the attention of the CEO as the case may be? >> >> 7. Should the chair always respond to all operational issues or extract >> answers from the CEO and relay? >> >> 8. Are you addressing Chair, Board, Staff or all? >> >> It is important that I get you right. What do you suggest? >> >> Thanks >> >> Sunday. >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 16, 2017 12:30, "Badru Ntege" <badru.nt...@nftconsult.com> wrote: >> >> Chair >> >> A response from any of the responsible persons might be of value. >> >> I’m concerned that responses coming back to issues raised by community are >> not being given the due attention, with some glaring omissions which makes >> the members worry if we have all hands on deck. >> >> Would it be advisable to have some kind of SLA in how long it takes to >> respond to community and Member queries?? >> >> I have noticed it takes quite some time for members to get an >> acknowledgement on issues raised. >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> >> On 6/15/17, 1:36 PM, "Noah" <n...@neo.co.tz> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 14 Jun 2017 3:29 p.m., "Alan Barrett" <alan.barr...@afrinic.net> wrote: >> >> >>> On 6 Jun 2017, at 22:19, Noah <n...@neo.co.tz> wrote: >>> Hi Chair, >>> >>> If the 39,199 was from members who defaulted and went out of business it >>> means the resources are no longer in use by those specific members. >>> >>> Did we recover those resources back into Afrinic inventory for >>> re-allocation/assignment? >>> >>> Can we please get a report on the space that was recovered as I couldnt >>> find that anywhere on the AFRINIC website. >> >> Although I was not asked this question, I perceive that some people may >> expect me to answer it. >> >> >> Hi Alan, >> >> Yes certainly.... >> >> >> Yes, resources from members who go out of business are recovered. The >> recovered resources are quarantined for two years, during which time they >> are marked as RESERVED in the WHOIS database. After the ene of he >> quarantine period, the recovered resources are released to the pool for >> possible re-use. >> >> We do not publicise the names of the members concerned. The reserved space >> may be found in raw data published at >> <ftp://ftp.afrinic.net/pub/stats/afrinic>. >> >> >> >> As far as I am concerned the list of members who defaulted and/or under >> closure used to be published for example the below AFRINIC link. >> >> http://web02.jnb.afrinic.net/community/policy-development/pdwg/1207-closure-list >> >> Why are we being less transparent about this now? In fact since 2014, how >> many members were closed up until 2017 as that record doesnt exist today? >> >> I also checked the >> ftp://ftp.afrinic.net/stats/afrinic/delegated-afrinic-extended-latest as you >> recommended. >> >> Are all those 2411 INR marked as “reserved”, resources from recovery? >> >> If not how can one tell the difference between which are the recovered space >> and everything else? >> >> Noah >> _______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing >> list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Community-Discuss mailing list >> Community-Discuss@afrinic.net >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Community-Discuss mailing list >> Community-Discuss@afrinic.net >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >> _______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss