> On Jun 7, 2018, at 22:03 , Omo Oaiya <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 7 June 2018 at 17:27, Owen DeLong <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 08:36 , Omo Oaiya <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> There lies the fallacy in your interpretation and your presumption to speak 
>> for Ashok.  
> 
> I do not speak for Ashok nor did I ever claim that I did. I do refer to 
> Ashok’s own statements on the matter.
> 
> There lies one of the many fallacies in your accusations.
> 
> 
> You refer to Ashoks statements and interpret them rather let him clarify, so 
> you are speaking for him, albeit unsolicited.

I did not interpret them. Sorry if you thought I did. I referred to them and 
stated my opinion which I believe is supported by his statements.

Really, must we engage in such sophistry and meta-discussion rather than 
addressing the actual substance of the situation?

>> Nowhere in our guidelines does it say that the “None of the Above” option 
>> receiving the plurality of the votes means a win in other than the case of a 
>> sole candidate.  On the other hand, the guidelines clearly describe the 
>> procedure to take in the case of candidates with the highest votes in a 
>> category.
> 
> Sigh… Yes, this is the literal, however illogical interpretation which you 
> have repeatedly put forward. As I said, it is a legitimate literal 
> interpretation of the guidelines regardless of it’s complete and utter 
> failure to provide a logical interpretation or conclusion given what the 
> guidelines do say.
> 
> 
> It is clear that you are are not reading guideline correctly as every reader 
> knows that if one removes the “if statement”, the else defaults to “the 
> candidate with highest win” where definition of candidate is by nomcom

It is clear that you are choosing to call my reading of the guidelines 
incorrect just as I call your reading of them illogical.

> 
> There is the “letter of the law” literal exact word for word meaning, which, 
> if taken to reductio ad absurdum does, in fact, leave one with your 
> conclusion.
> 
> Then there is the “spirit of the law” which is the clear and only logical 
> conclusion one can draw about the intent of the guidelines.
> 
> Ashok’s previous statements on the matter and the posted and announced 
> election results are consistent with the “spirit of the law” in this case. I 
> agree that the guidelines should be clarified so that the letter of the law 
> more clearly states the spirit of the law and lessens the probability of 
> these wasteful reductio ad absurdum arguments. I do not believe any change to 
> the result of the election is warranted.
> 
> I speak only for myself here. Obviously others may be of a different opinion.
> 
> More uninformed presumptions.  Frameworks for elections have to be in 
> accordance with both the spirit and letter of the law.  

What in the above do you call a presumption?

> At this point, I will let Dr Tessa decide if he wants to take this further or 
> not.

That would be a refreshing change.

Owen


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