> On Jun 27, 2021, at 14:48 , Noah <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 3:29 AM Ronald F. Guilmette <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> In message <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>>,
> Owen DeLong <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> >Note that Ronald makes it clear that entities which have no nexus in the
> >AFRINIC service region should not be eligible for membership.
>
> Just to clarify, that's not exactly what I said. I quoted the Bylaws.
> They say that one must have -both- a business footprint in the region
> -and- also must be providing some (unspecified) amount of service
> within the region.
>
> The practise across the Internet is that, majority of the usage is
> local/regional and a small % is outer-region to support expansion or
> connectivity back into the region.
Nope… That’s far from common practice across the vast majority of
multi-national companies with significant infrastructure around the internet.
For example, Hurricane Electric has a number of datacenter locations in Africa,
but not one allocatoin/assignment from AFRINIC.
kiev:owen (142) ~ % whois -h whois.afrinic.net he.net
2021/06/28 18:13:33
% This is the AfriNIC Whois server.
% The AFRINIC whois database is subject to the following terms of Use. See
https://afrinic.net/whois/terms
% Note: this output has been filtered.
% To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.
%ERROR:101: no entries found
%
% No entries found in source AFRINIC.
kiev:owen (143) ~ % whois -h whois.afrinic.net hurricane
2021/06/29 2:32:41
% This is the AfriNIC Whois server.
% The AFRINIC whois database is subject to the following terms of Use. See
https://afrinic.net/whois/terms
% Note: this output has been filtered.
% To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.
%ERROR:101: no entries found
%
% No entries found in source AFRINIC.
When I worked there, Akamai had significant infrastructure all over Africa, but
was not an AFRINIC resource member. They do appear to have
some AFRINIC space now, including a /30 and a /28 from PCCW in Nigeria now, but
I’d hardly call that significant given the amount of infrastructure
they have on continent numbered from other RIRs.
> Pretty much all LIR in all regions operate at a local scale and a few with
> massive economies of scale expand out especially the so called hyperscalers
> and tier-1 providers so to speak.
No.
Maybe in Africa, but in most regions, there is a mix of global networks and
domestic networks. Sure, the number of small network operators is greater
than the number of large ones, but the vast majority of addresses are in the
hands of the larger global carriers and mega-ISPs.
Owen
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