Hi Owen

> On 2 Jul 2021, at 11:49, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote:
> 

> 
> So if a membership organization that is open to all service providers in the 
> region is rejecting/terminating memberships solely on the base of their 
> involvement in a particular legal second line of business outside the region 
> and doing so to the detriment of their ability to provide the existing 
> services in the region, you don’t believe that would be a form of tortious 
> interference? Interesting. I defer to your greater expertise in this area, of 
> course, but I find it surprising.
> 
I think you are missing a key component, I am not sure if intentionally or not? 
Membership organisations almost universally have a constitution / by-laws / 
criteria for membership / expected terms of behaviour. I am not aware of any 
country’s laws that allow one to insist on membership of an organisation - 
without also undertaking to abide by the relevant constitution / by-laws / 
criteria for membership / expected terms of behaviour.

If the rules provide for the eventuality you describe and IF proper process is 
followed (note the caveat), i see no issue with membership being rejected / 
terminated. It would be the equivalent of rejecting / terminating a membership 
if the (prospective) member does not pay the membership fees.

My understanding is that for there to be tortuous interference, there must be a 
tort - which involves WRONGFULNESS. If the actions of the organisation are not 
wrongful, there is no tort and thus the consequences to the harmed party are 
irrelevant. If it wanted the benefits of membership - it should have played by 
the rules ….IF those rules are validly enforced.

>> The Mauritian competition framework does not provide for extraterritorial 
>> jurisdiction - so I fail to see what basis there would be for any potential 
>> anti-trust action?
> 
> This makes me think, perhaps you misunderstand my example, or seized upon a 
> less than perfect detail vs. the intended concept.
> 
No I didn’t but let’s try again.

> Let’s try it a different way.
> 
> Let’s say that there are two ISPs operating in Mauritius. One of them also 
> operates an IP Brokerage in the Netherlands trading in 
> allocations/assignments issued by RIPE-NCC and operating entirely within the 
> RIPE-NCC policies.
> 
> Would you still say that it’s legal OK for AFRINIC to reject/terminate the 
> membership of the one operating the brokerage in the Netherlands on that 
> basis?

I am not sure why there needs to be two ISPs and what the relevance is of the 
second ISP. Above you were arguing it is a tort, now you are arguing 
anti-competitive action.

Anti-competitive conduct seems a huge stretch when the vertical relationship 
between AfriNIC and members operates on a not for profit basis and is not 
designed to favour any one or more party - only to ensure compliance with a set 
of rules. Would refusing service to a member that does not pay its fees be 
anti-competitive? If AfriNIC rejects/terminates membership of only one member 
…. when there are others behaving in the same way, then this conduct would more 
likely be a breach of by-laws and inequitable application of the rules, rather 
than anti-competitive. 

I don’t see it as being anti-competitive as I fail to see the basis to argue a 
lessening of competition …. unless you have a conspiracy theory that is beyond 
me.

Mike

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