> On Aug 1, 2021, at 12:21 , Noah <n...@neo.co.tz> wrote: > > > > On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, 20:47 Owen DeLong, <o...@delong.com > <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: > > >> On Aug 1, 2021, at 06:06 , Noah <n...@neo.co.tz <mailto:n...@neo.co.tz>> >> wrote: >> >> >> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, 15:43 Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss, >> <community-discuss@afrinic.net <mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> wrote: >> >> Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this >> situation do so >> - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile transfer out - problem >> solved. >> >> https://afrinic.net/policy/archive/inbound-transfer-policy >> <https://afrinic.net/policy/archive/inbound-transfer-policy> >> >> Noah >> PS: confusion of the highest order. > > Who is confused, Noah? > > Andrew who penned down that failed Inbound Transfer Policy Proposal in 2016 > and today was suggesting an Outbound transfer policy to move IPv4 space out > of AFRINIC service region. There is some confusion there.
I don’t think he’s confused, I think you fail to recognize a: the context in which he penned that 2016 proposal and b: the ways in which circumstances have changed today. > Personally, I think the simpler and more expedient thing would be for the > board to merely ratify > the existing consensus RTP, > > Says Owen who recently on Thu Jul 29 01:22:17 UTC 2021 cautioned the same > AFRINIC board from ratifying a proposal under some appeal. Yes… Difference is that there’s arguably no valid appeal standing against RTP. Co-chairs declared consensus. Appeal submitted Co-chairs returned proposal to list for further community input. Consensus was confirmed by the community and again confirmed by co-chairs. Thus this consensus declaration was not the subject of the previous appeal. Proposal submitted to board fro ratification after second consensus call. > > I refer you to the archives > https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/013651.html > <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/013651.html> > > Jordi > I’ve submitted several appeals, so I know very well that only > patience is needed. > Owen: I would think you, of all people, would understand the need for the > board to at least acknowledge the appeal and provide some assurance that it > will not ratify a policy that should be under appeal. > > Jordi > The Board will not be able to ratify a policy under appeal until the > appeal is resolved. That’s it. > Owen: Normally, I would agree with you. However, in the face of recent > events, I am unwilling to place so much faith in > this current board. > > Is it safe to say that you Owen is equally confused. Nope… But apparently I was right about you being confused. You seem to fail to grasp the difference in circumstance for the two policies you mention above. > but Andrew’s suggestion could also mitigate risks for members. > > It remains Andrew's personal opinion and not the consensus of 75% of the > membership base. How did you measure this 75%’s opinions? Please do tell. Further, what do members have to do with policy? Policy is under the control of the community. Members get control of the board and the bylaws. Owen
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