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Dear AfriNIC's Community,
...this is a pure "dialogue of deafs" :'-(
Shalom,
--sb.
Le jeudi 5 août 2021, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> a écrit :
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2021, at 04:44 , Sylvain Baya <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dear AfriNIC's Community,
>
> Please see my comments below, inline...
>
> Le mardi 3 août 2021, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> a écrit :
>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 2, 2021, at 00:03 , Sylvain Baya <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Dear AfriNIC's Community,
>>
>> Please see my comments below, inline...
>>
>> Le samedi 31 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2021, at 15:14 , Sylvain Baya <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear AfriNIC's Community,
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 28 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <
>>> [email protected]> a écrit :
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> I have not forgotten, but we are not talking about reservation.
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Owen,
>> Thanks to take time to reply to my email, brother.
>>
>> ...so, *we*! i assume the same *we* you usually
>> use to call your team to support your personal interpretation of the
>> facts?
>>
>>
>> No, we is you and I, the people engaged in this particular conversational
>> thread.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Hi Owen,
> Thanks for your clarification, brother.
>
> ...so, you try to impose to all others a particular
> theme?
>
>
> ??? I don’t try to impose anything. I simply made a statement about
> the nature of the items you and I were discussing. They are not
> reservations
> by the meaning contained any AFRINIC governing document.
>
> Please, sir, how can i be removed from your pool?
>
>
> I am very confused here. What pool do you speak of?
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>
>> We don’t do anything to interfere with or prevent end-users
>> or clients from seeking internet number resources from any
>> other source.
>>
>>
> ...please, sir, could you share your stats on the number of orgs, you have
> helped to become LIR
> since the time your org shipted from LIR to INRs
> seller? mini-RIR? or Global LIR?
>
>
> No. Doing so would violate the confidentiality of my clients and is not
> material to any
> legitimate discussion here.
>
> RFC7020 states:
>
> ~°~
> [...]
>
> In
> cases where LIRs span multiple regions, those LIRs have
> established relationships with multiple RIRs.
>
> [...]
> ~°~
>
> ...full part:
>
> ~°~
>
> Local IRs
>
> Local Internet Registries (LIRs) are established through a
> relationship with the body from which they received their
> addresses, typically the RIR that serves the region in which they
> operate, a parent LIR, or other number-allocating entity. In
> cases where LIRs span multiple regions, those LIRs have
> established relationships with multiple RIRs. LIRs perform IP
> address allocation services for their customers, typically ISPs,
> end users, or child LIRs (also known as "sub-LIRs").
>
> ~°~
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7020>
>
>
> First, you seem to have missed this:
>
> Abstract
>
> This document provides information about the current Internet Numbers
> Registry System used in the distribution of globally unique Internet
> Protocol (IP) address space and autonomous system (AS) numbers.
>
> This document also provides information about the processes for
> further evolution of the Internet Numbers Registry System.
>
> This document replaces
> RFC 2050
> .
>
> This document does not propose any changes to the current Internet
> Numbers Registry System. Rather, it documents the Internet Numbers
> Registry System as it works today.
>
>
> Then as you have pointed out, it states “typically”. By definition, this
> means that there
> are likely to exist atypical situations as well.
>
> There are, in fact, multiple entities operating in multiple regions, but
> only having
> relationships with a single RIR and there is nothing (outside of one
> LACNIC policy)
> that serves to hamper or restrict this behavior.
>
> Owen
>
>
>
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