Hello, It looks like Owen and Cloud Innovation have decided to not respond to John on this trivial question. This is an important discussion point as AFRINIC has always been in need-based allocation mode.
Silence from a very vocal person is also an answer. Thanks John for asking. — Gregoire > On Aug 8, 2021, at 9:21 AM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 6 Aug 2021, at 6:05 AM, John Curran <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> On 5 Aug 2021, at 6:04 PM, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> ... >>> ALL LIRs lease INRs. Many do it in relation to also providing >>> connectivity services. Cloud Innovation also does it in relation >>> to providing connectivity services in some (but not all) cases. >>> >>> ... We (Cloud Innovation) have customers just like any other LIR. >>> >>> We (Cloud Innovation) assign addresses to them for use on internet >>> connected hosts, just like any other LIR. The only distinction between >>> us (Cloud Innovation) and most other LIRs is that we will do so regardless >>> of whether we are the provider of that connectivity or not. >> >> Owen - >> >> Thanks for the above – I believe it is helpful in clarifying how the IP >> address blocks are being used today. For my understanding, is this same >> purpose for which they were originally requested and issued? > > Owen - > > You have posted dozens of messages to this list of rationale asserting Cloud > Innovation’s legitimacy in number resource matters, even going so face as > observing that they are "a model citizen of the IP number resource using > community” and a party with “meticulous” record keeping. You have also taken > to responding to many messages on this list detailing their IP number > resource utilization as proper, and have no issue identifying as “We (Cloud > Innovation)” in those responses. > > Surely you could do the AFRINIC community the courtesy of an answer to a > single question about their number resource utilization – i.e. a yes/no > question of fact regarding the number resources that Cloud Innovation > obtained from AFRINIC and that now appear subject to dispute with AFRINIC? > (While I am sure that many have found your many assertions enlightening, it > is often helpful to have clear statements of fact in order keep discussions > well-informed and anchored to reality.) > > Again, for clarity – “Is Cloud Innovation’s usage today of the number > resources for the same purpose for which they were originally requested and > issued?” This simple question is certainly something that the community has > a reasonable right to know – and should be trivial to answer given your > exhaustive knowledge demonstrated in correspondence already on the matter. > > Thanks in advance! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
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