Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > Greg Stein wrote: > <snip> > > > > >Sorry, but nominations for membership, commit status, or PMC membership > > >really should be private. I absolutely will not participate in such an > > >environment, and will encourage others to avoid it also. These kinds of > > >discussions really don't enhance the community. > > > > > > Totally agree. Every community needs a place to discuss > > some limited things in private. Sure on cocoon-dev we > > discuss the actual vote for a new committer in public. > > However prior to that some sub-set of committers might > > discuss a proposed committer off-list. Sometimes we have > > said "no not yet, let us wait a while for such-and-such > > reason". This is a problem because only some of the > > committers are involved. So we do need a private forum > > where all project committers can discuss. > > > > What about using CVS for this? Can only committers > > checkout the "committers" module? (I see that it is > > not available via ViewCVS.) If so then that makes it > > a semi-private place. Each project could have their own > > document (e.g. cocoon-new-committers.txt) where we discuss > > via editing the file. > > > > This also helps to keep track of various developers that > > we may want to invite later. Too often i have seen people > > overlooked because we have just plain forgotten to invite > > them. > > David, > > what you are talking about is a PMC. If (when?) Cocoon will be upgraded > to be a fully recognized and structured ASF project, we'll have a PMC > exactly for those discussions and the PMC mail list (for legal and > security reasons) will have to be private.
No, not a PMC. I mean a method for *all* committers of a project to be able to discuss certain things in private. I notice that you expressed similar reasoning to my first paragraph, in your other reply to this thread. It was the success of that small-group off-line proposal and subsequent on-line vote of Nicola Ken committer, that sparked my reply too. --David > The ASF architecture is very well designed. Just it was not designed for > containers like jakarta and xml. And this is why we are sometimes > suffering or having to resort to our own stuff. > > -- > Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
