On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 02:17:38PM -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > http://www.freeroller.net/page/acoliver/20030108#when_is_community_not_a >... > - he was criticized for a message that he made > in jest, but which wasn't at all obvious in > that intent.
To be honest, I usually find people who say "but that was a joke" are simply trying to cover up a social blunder under the ruse of "you didn't get it." Whether the case here or not, it certainly was non-obvious. And why did he unsubscribe? We can make guesses, but that's about it. Unless he clarifies further in his blog or posts elsewhere... > "Just Do It" is a great ad slogan, but it doesn't seem to me to always be > the appropriate model for group projects. Right. > Yes, it makes things happen. But > when people are actively discussing an issue of communal interest, it makes > sense to me that the issue be discussed, various ways to doing something > examined, tradeoffs weighed, and then execute a change based upon some > concensus. Otherwise, when more than one person cares about a subject, > "Just Do It" results in one person's vision being realized, and a cycle of > potentially conflicting changes necessary to stablize the code. Am I > missing something? You're missing the fact that a "just do it" attitude can be totally inconsiderate towards your peers. "I don't care about your opinion, I'm just getting it done." It certainly doesn't help foster a community based on mutual respect. > I'm going to be curious to see how Subwiki works out -- if the intent is to > switch --- being in Python, not Perl, but still not in Java. Are there more > Python coders than Perl here? It is probably about the same number, but the SubWiki author is "here" while the UseModWiki author is not :-) To be honest, any kind of "switch" would be based on features rather than on the language. (and the fact that I can maintain our installation) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/