> > Community should be responsible for the pages and the content of the
> email.
>
> > Infrastructure are responsible for providing us with the tools to allow
> them
> > to be created/maintained etc.
>
> Those tools already exist.  After being prepared, patches would be
submitted
> against the site module, and sent to infrastructure for appplication.
Based
> upon some of the comments you've just made elsewhere, we agree that the
> point is not to burden the infrastructure team more than necessary.

Agreed to a point. We don't have the tools that readily available though...

> > As we're still trying to get to the first stone let's be patient and not
> try
> > to leap the river in one jump!
>
> I don't understand this perspective.  The information exists.  The real
> problem is that different projects have been providing different bits and
> pieces of it, if at all:
>
>  http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SigningReleases
>  http://www.apache.org.dev
>  http://cvs.apache.org/~bodewig/mirror.html
>  http://jakarta.apache.org/site/guidelines.html
>  http://xml.apache.org/guidelines.html
>  http://httpd.apache.org/dev/

What a mess...

> And those are just a few.  That doesn't count the document Leo Simons is
> working on, and submitted.
>
> There is a great value in this effort, but it isn't a matter of developing
> new information or new tools so much as a matter of collecting and
collating
> the information, providing a central location, and coordinating getting
all
> of the projects using it.

IMHO we need to do a bit more than that! Really if that's all you think is
needed then our opinions differ by a larger margin that I thought they did.

david


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