On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 10:55, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> 
> I wouldn't phrase it quite that way, but as long as the question is on the
> table: why aren't Ant and Maven two related projects under a single PMC?

Well, because when Ant formed they had no desire to be grouped with
Maven which is perfectly fine. Why isn't it perfectly fine? And when we
made our proposal we wanted to be separate.

What irks the hell out of me is people like Nicola constantly whining
about being excluded. Excluded from what? We didn't cut of hands and
throw you in a closet. All those projects can do whatever they want? If
there is no emergent cooperation what is the point in forcing
collaboration? It's just not productive and how does that serve the
purpose of making better software?

> And what is underlying Jason's emotional response to that idea?
> 
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In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
  
  -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society


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