On Mon, 19 May 2008 09:31:15 +0200 Piotr Duda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) belkocze: > [...] > > please READ THE EMAIL. suddenly the use of efl means "We are efl based". the > > non-use of shipepd gtk apps means "we dont support gtk" and so on are all > > bizarre views people hold and are espousing on these lists. they are not > > true. we use EFL for certain apps and uses. > > I do not know details about what this certain apps are, but one can assume > that these would be apps I called "main" (dialer, phonebook etc.)... If thats > not true please tell me, I dont think that was said clearly on this ML... if > it is true, then we can argue what means "based on" but I cant see any reason > to argue about that... ;-) > > it's good at certain things. > > like I said, Im not trying to judge this... > > > to keep > > supporting gtk and all other toolkits we have gone to effort to support it > > under X11. we still use X - all toolkits still work. > > Im very happy with that, even more that it seemed to me that some time ago it > was not supposed to be like that (I dont have time to dig ml archives to > recall if it was clearly stated by OM team, during gtk vs qt flamewar and its > totally unimportant now) > > > shachar *IS* asking for work. he's saying "use gtk! dont use efl! it doesnt > > support hebrew and arabic and farsi... bidi". that means WORK for US. we > > nave to re-implement from basics the things EFL then does for us already. > > I just said that I couldnt find where Shachar demands for support hebrew and > arabic and farsi from the OM team... Im not so close to OM development process > like you and dont know the status of the development when it was aimed on he's asking us to use gtk because then he can have his support - or most of it. from the school of "there can only be one widget set" of thought. ie we must use just gtk - no efl, or just qt. i am saying there are multiple, used for different things. they have overlap too. > gtk, so like many others in this community I can just assume something, for > example that a lot of work was put already there - and this could bring some > questions and some doubts and some disappointments (like Shachar's)... > also, i cant remember it was clearly announced (the move from gtk only to > efl and gtk and qt) its looks like it came to the surface itself, but still > one could feel surprised (like Michael Shiloh seemed to be ;-) no it was not announced. it was a management decision. :) > _I strongly believe that you know what you are doing, please dont assume that > you have to convince me to anything..._ > > Im not trying to continue this thread, Im not trying to start any flame wars > about one toolkit vs another... Im very sorry if it looked like this - it was > no my intention... :-) that's cool. i am just trying to explain why we do things. i could just sit silent and say nothing - you'd never know why, and all u'd get was software images :) i'm trying to open up a bit of the reasoning behind decisions. :) > peace... > Piotr > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
