On Tuesday 12 May 2009 08:01:47 roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: > On 8/05/2009 6:58 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote: > > Some time ago, I have recommended several friends*NOT* to buy a > > Freerunner, because software was not ready. It was a great toy for me, > > but my friends would get desperated. I think it's being open minded (and > > being a good friend;) > > > > If someone feels raped, he can press charges to OM. But complaining on a > > community mailing list won't solve his problems. Don't you think? > > Way to chime in at the tail end. It's obvious with Dale's recent emails > that he's frustrated that nobody was listening or taking him seriously. > > I witnessed his contributions and willingness to provide feedback, where > he was met with semantics and useless responses that then pushed him to > publicise his opinion and his situation. All still very obvious if you > have paid any attention. > > You're love for your device and your 'opinion' in no way solves the > problem that he had no outlet for recouping on a falsely advertised > device. Our laws entitle us to have our money refunded in such a > situation but this does not transcend international borders. > > I'd like to know where it is exactly you'd voice your dissent in such a > situation. I'm sure Dale can present you with an audit trail of emails, > trac tickets and the like, long before any of this actually started > publicly. > > To top it off, I reckon Dale would have assimilated (now that's a nasty > word over here) had Lorn admitted to the failings of QTE and been > willing to agree that people have differing opinions on the software's > 'usefulness', none of this would have ever happened. > > The one thing that should never occurred, and I imagine there are a few > people that agree here, is that the FR should never have been advertised > as a phone. Potential to become a phone maybe. This marketing oversight > would have saved a lot of trouble and time.
You're right in all you're saying, and specially in that the FR should never been advertised as a phone. I was only trying to mean that I didn't see that advertisement, and I knew it was not ready. Long before Neo was released, I was following mailing lists and wiki, and it was clear software was in a very early stage. Not more not less. If I answered this thread was because I didn't like to hear this sentence: " I have been defrauded of $400. And so have you. The only difference is that I'm not willing to sit around pretending that being raped is all fun and games." I don't feel defrauded, and I don't pretend is funny being raped. And at this moment, *at least for me*, Neo already works like a phone, and I suppose updating GSM firmware to moko11, and disabling calypso deep_sleep, should make it work as a phone for everyone. > I say oversight because the people who are supporting openmoko really > don't care whether it's a phone out of the box or not. You're right on this one too. I bought it knowing it was not still an usabe phone, and I didn't care about it . _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community