On Feb 26, 2004, at 12:47 am, Darren wrote:
OS8.1 is less than suited to many 68k machines. Apart from eye candy and compatibility for some programs you might wont what has it got for a 68k mac?
Open Transport that works properly (well better than 7.x anyway) with Mac OS X. A Finder that has many useful non-eye candy features like Spring Loaded Folders. Contextual menus that work right and have more features. It's generally a departure from the borky, kludged world of 7.x and a fresh(er) start.
OT 1.1.3 is better than 1.1.2 in what way exactly? OSX?. OT's so good I prefer MacTCP which fits my needs to a tee and works with anything I've tried to connect it to including other platforms (naturally I add to these platforms for compatibility with the mac, not the other way round), as for the rest I use a desktop manger and a aqua theme on the colour 7.x macs here, of course I can change that to a number of others so I really dont understand borky.
I have 3 machines running 8.1, 1 601 (7100/80) and 2 68040s. Both CPU types are equally as fast. I have no problems with them being slow at all. My Mystic CC (hears Stuart shout 'HARRAH SOMETHING ON TOPIC!') runs 8.1 really well on it's dinky little 640x480 screen. My idea of fast is not the same as others I guess, but I can't really say 8.1 is sluggish, or I wouldn't use it.
Its rather pointless to continue, speed is the amount of time something takes to do a set task. No matter how you roll it 8.1 is slower than 7.x on a 68k mac when compared.
Consider this if you will. All my 8.1 machines have these vital things.
1. Large hard disks (18.6GB, 4GB, 5GB) that more or less require HFS+ - thus I have lots of room for the bloat.
2. Lots of RAM (128MB, 68MB and 96MB)
3. Regular use.
You seem to assume that '68k' implies automatically a lack of RAM and a small hard disk. This is not true in my case. I run 7.1 or 7.6 on stuff with a small drive and less RAM. Well upgraded and equipped, fast 68040 machines, and 601s, are more than capable of coping with 8.1, so why not?
My first comment was a straight forward answer to a question about the most suited OS for a Classic II. On topic enough for you? Your the one going on about ppc this and that to which I have answered. Maybe you should read my last reply and try to comprehend what I said about OS8.1, and the terms 601 and "most 68k macs" in the context they were used. Speed is easy to test, get a partitioned drive and install 7.x and 8.x onto it using a 475, maxed ram (apple spec) and standard vram, boot each and tell me 8.1 is better and 7.x is borky, you should get a idea of speed by my definition at the same time.
Plus I don't own a copy of 8.6, or even have a copy of a copy.
8.6 is a free upgrade for 8.5 of which I do have a paid version as I do for 7.5, 7.6, 8.0, 9.0, I guess you cant really offer a comparison opinion then. 8.6 works at about the same speed as 8.1 on a accelerated quadra, it just provides more and better functions and is a true ppc optimized OS with around the same footprint as 8.1. I would expect better results on a real 601 mac but can't say.
For me the biggest difference between 7.1.x and 7.5.x is the use of the power button on the keyboard which 7.1 doesn't seem to support.
YMMV
Gee, ya think? While I enjoy your posts and the info contained in them I do hope your not going to try to berate each post of mine in answer to another listers on topic question with such off topic nonsense as you have recently. You know the address and I invite you to continue this offlist with me if its your wish.
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