----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Compact Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:58 PM Subject: Questions regarding a variety of Compact Macs
> Hey Guys! I sent out an email awhile ago regarding the treasure trove of macs I > just obtained, and now I have some questions. > > 1) I have about a kajillion SE's. Many of them clearly have two 800k disk > drives, a couple of them say they are a "Macintosh SE Superdrive". It only has > one disk drive (I am assuming a 1.4MB one) but no harddrive... I *thought* the > superdrive models came with an internal HD.... The vast majority have one > single 800k drive and the upper bay is closed off but has the little paper clip > whole and a little window thing that looks like it should be a light. > > I am a little confused... could someone run down the many variations of the > SEs? As I understand it: *SE - your basic SE with a 800k drive. Some have hard drives, some don't. *SE SuperDrive - your basic SE with a 1.4MB drive. Some have hard drives, some don't. *SE FDHD - your SE SuperDrive with a hard drive. (This is the one I'm not so sure about, so correct me if I'm wrong. But I was under the assumption that all FDHD's have hard disks.) *SE/30 - Your SE FDHD with a MC68030 processor instead of the MC68000. > > 2) I have two SE/30s. One does not turn on at all and the Apple Techstep system > (this really cool keypad like thing that plugs in to the computers and tests a > variety of things) says that it is not getting any power. THe second one turns > on, but all I get is a screen full of horizontal lines, alternating light and > dark. WHat does this mean? Apple Techstep can't put the thing in Test mode > via the SCSI port, so I am not sure if something is wrong there. Check out the Mac SE Repair pages at: http://www.biwa.ne.jp/%7Eshamada/fullmac/repairEng.html They even have a section on just the problem you describe. > > 3) I have (literally) over 1,000 floppy disks. Many are Apple things (a couple > of sealed Teacher Software bundles, something called "interpoll network" > things, etc.). One set of disks are called "Apple CAT" things- these say that > they test a couple of types of computers.... however, it says that they are for > use on another computer. SO I am assuming that these test the subject computer > by hooking it up to another computer... What cords are necessary to hook these > up? > Can't help you here. > 4) I have a couple of Apple 80SC hard drives... unfortunately it is not mounting > on any of the 40,000 Mac Pluses I have, nor the SEs or Classics. Is there > something necessary to load this thing? > Hmm. Not sure. But you might want to try some of the utilities on this page: http://home.earthlink.net/%7Egamba2/hd.html > 5) I have a pair of Syquest 44 MB... "things".... these things are like huge CDS > inside cartridges. The case say that they are 44MB. I am assuming these are > some kind of Magneto Optical drives... Same as the above: I can't get it to > mount anything. What do I need to do to get it up there Don't know. > > 6) One of the hard drives I have is a 250MB clubmac drive. It will mount on the > Classic II (haven't tried it on the thousands of Classics) but not any of the > Mac Pluses... Is there something unique about those? > Again, don't know. But I would try playing around with utilities on the above page. > 7) I also got the special mac hex screwdriver needed to open up the cases, and I > haev discovered that I will probably need to do this to pillage some of the > macs to salvage working parts. My question is: I have heard horror stories > about the innards of these things. Is it safe to be poking around in there? > What should I and shouldn't I touch? > They say you ought to discharge the CRT before poking around inside Compact Macs. CRT's carry a very very high voltage, even after they have been deactivated. Something called a flyback transformer is supposed to discharge them automatically, but sometimes these transformers can fail, and some of the earlier COmpact Macs do not even have them. Which is why they recommend that you *ALWAYS* discharge the CRT before you do any playing with the innards. The proper procedure for discharging CRT's can be found at the Mac SE Repair Pages-- the first URL I posted up there. I can't assume any responsibility for what might happen if you choose not to follow this procedure. That said, I will tell you that I have *NEVER* discharged a CRT before and I have done plenty of poking, prodding, removal and installation of the boards inside Compact Macs. I am still here to talk about it, and have never suffered any sort of 'accident' from not discharging a CRT. Generally, I avoid anything that has to do with the picture tube or CRT in general. I've been told that simply avoiding the red suction cup is usually sufficient. I've bumped and bounced against different parts of the yoke assembly and CRT by accident on numerous occasions without anything happening. Aside from that, feel free to do all the poking and prodding you want using the same caution you would in any other machine to prevent static damage to the circuits. Removal of the motherboard (the circuit board positioned horizontally below the CRT) is quite easy- simply disconnect the hard drive SCSI cable (if applicable), the floppy cable, and the power cable (the one with the white connector). There is a catch on the power cable that you will need to squeeze in order to remove it. Then, just slide the board towards you and out. > > > Well you guys, thanks for your help. My room is covered in compact macs, and > the answers to these questions will help me fix these things and get them into > ship shape. Thanks again! > I know the feeling. I just got over 30 compact macs that were on their way to a dumpster (luckily I intercepted), along with some other assorted newer machines. > -Kendall > ------------ Nat Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/>. Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Compact Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive:<http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --------------------------------------------------------------- >The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---------------------------------------------------------------
