Re: Surfing on a Classic II

[Darren]

Liam Proven wrote:
On 4/13/05, Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Nothing wrong with the shell,     

It's... ideosyncratic, to say the least. I know DOS, CP/M, VAX-VMS,
Unix, Acorn RISC OS and more & I couldn't make head or tail of it. No
help, no nothing. Still, it is venerable.
 

:) funny, I never found dos anything but laughable, I battle on with 
some flavor of nix which is more like the cli/shell but then thats what 
amigaOS was supposed to be.

the GUI is completely customizable. 
   

For free, with built-in tools? 
 

Aminet
No VM cause its not needed
   

That's what Acorn said of RISC OS. They were wrong, too.
 

:) VM was slow at best on older boxes, I guess there was a bright side 
in that was tight and efficient code was made for a short time unlike now.

Also, the lack of VM and management crippled AmigaOS's later
development - even today in OS 4.0.
 

Not the only problem, Amiga has been dead for years, they should give it 
up as most of their target customer base has.
There are third party VM programs, all very fussy none remain installed, 
yet the mac emulator has no problem if the cpu is right, no (e)

Can you piggy back 4 floppy drives on a mac?
   

Today, yes. :¬) But there was no want or need. A hard disk makes more sense.
 

Today yes. You want to dig up a price comparision for yesterday, my 
first 40mb hdd and ram exp cost an arm and leg and worth every cent 
before that floppies worked fine. Hard to go back to now.

http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/cwi/hl/ is a web browser for the
C64/C128. 
   

A platform I never did. I was a Sinclair Spectrum user in those days.
Power without the price!
 

The author was/is a list member, I had hoped he would try his hand at 
mac68000.
I've got one for the Apple ][ somewhere.

Mosaic or early version of Aweb surfs on a A500/68000 while
Voyager, Ibrowse or Aweb do a good job on 020 machines and up Java
finally included.
   

Mine's a 1200 with a 25MHz '030 accelerator on OS 3.1. No networking,
alas, so no Internet. Got SCSI, though!
 

Kewl, my 030/50 phase IV cost my remaining arm and leg, plugs into the 
lan via a old pcmcia network card. No scsi - hard to find down here I do 
have the ide buffer board which helps

Now you have a 030, why cant you find NS2 or a version of IE or icab or
some such, Ive backed up Gambas site a long time before he dissappeared.
   

Not on System 6. I had MacOS 7.6.1 online on it /years/ ago; that's /easy!/
 

My mistake, I thought the trouble was with 7.
For appletalk on BetaX try sheepsaver or BII as opposed to booting from
classic mode. I can use google with Macweb on a Classic the result page
will end the surfing session though
   

Oh? Doesn't work for me. Just an error message about client-side redirection.
 

And I run macweb on sys7 which may explain it.
Ignored not forgotten, WinUEA, there is a mac port around, just one of a
multitude of emulators to play with. 
   

WinUAE. UEA is the University of East Anglia. I know - got it, played
with it, years ago, before I had a real Miggy.
But it is ignored, inasmuch as the lessons of these earlier machines
were not learned and the PC design is only slowly and painfully
incorporating some of them even today.
 

:) do we call that progress, I think we do.
Open Transport does have some quailties over Mactcp. 
   

Oh, I know, but MacTCP does the job. Also, the sites are unanimous
that OT is really slow on '030 machines and in low memory. The Classic
II is both.
 

Which is why I dont install it nor recommend it but it does have 
advantages that need to be pointed out.

Cant you install Mactpc and select between the two with the Network CP
installed by one of them? 
   

I don't know! I'll try...
 

Our first ppc had both installed I'm fairly sure it was called Network 
and lived in the apple extras folder.

If you have the 7.6.1 cd you can remove Open Transport or do it by hand.
   

Hmm. I have the 7.6 CD...
 

Should do it, I dont recall 7.6.1 updating OT, our disc has both 7.6 and 
the 7.6.1 update.
You could tome view the installer to double check the files to remove I 
guess.

Found this interesting, someone here probably contributed. ;) It may be 
useful
http://www.cs.uu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/motorola/68k-chips-faq.html

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