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That's not the game I looked at.   I looked at game 133580 where WHITE
had 57 points and black had 24 points.

So WHITE had a clear win in a completed game - even if you ignore komi
or even given komi to BLACK!

And yet white resigned, giving the game to black.

- - Don


Jason House wrote:
> For the game we both looked at, 133684, the end position had 33 solid
> points (stones+territory) for ego and 45 solid points for erlygo.  3
> were undecided.  If ego got all 3, it'd have 36.  With komi, that'd be
> 7.5 higher, or 43.5.  The best ego could do is lose by 1.5 points, so
> resigning is the correct action.
> 
> On 9/24/07, *Urban Hafner* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sep 24, 2007, at 17:07 , Don Dailey wrote:
> 
>> Did you look at the games?
> 
> Good idea. For whatever reason I didn't think of this!
> 
>> I looked at game 133580.sgf and your program was clearly lost playing
>> the black pieces,  however the game record says that your opponent
>> resigned in a dead won position.
> 
>> In fact, there were not moves left to play other than filling eyes.
> 
> I had a look at 133673 and 133684 which ego110_allfirst also resigned
> and it's not clear to me why. All the more reason to find out how this
> program is playing after all. At least I'm even more curious now.
> 
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