It looks like CGOS 19x19 is down again. -David
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:computer-go- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:47 AM > To: Don Dailey > Cc: computer-go > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Where and How to Test the Strong Programs? > > I'm going to estimate that 100 ELO is roughly 1 rank based on this: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_ranks_and_ratings > > This may not hold for 9x9. If a 1 kyu beats a 2kyu about 64% of the > time in an even game at 19x19, it doesn't imply that he will do the > same at 9x9, but until I have a reason to believe differently I will > set this as our first guess in the formula. We can always come back > and modify this later. > > We may be able to borrow KGS data of well established players playing > 9x9 games against each other to estimate this. Would anyone like to > volunteer to do this? > > So as it stands, our formula is: > > 3ky = 1942 cgos_elo > > dan = (your_elo - 2142) / 100 > kyu = -dan + 1 > > 1 Dan = 2242 cgos > 1 Kyu = 2142 cgos > 2 Kyu = 2042 cgos > 3 Kyu = 1942 cgos > > The strongest bot on CGOS all time list seems to be greenpeep0.5.1 > <http://cgos.boardspace.net/9x9/cross/greenpeep0.5.1.html> with a > rating > of 2621. > > This implies it is almost equal to a 5 Dan player - which doesn't sound > right to me. However, this could be fluky since it is as at the > extreme end of the scale. It would be great if this same program > could play some strong humans at the equivalent time control on KGS at > 9x9 and we could adjust the difference between ranks accordingly. > > I suspect there is more than 100 ELO between ranks at 9x9. > > - Don > > > > Don Dailey wrote: > > Christoph, > > > > Your bayeselo rating is 1942 on CGOS. I compiled a table that > has > > all players with 50 games or more which can be found here: > > > > http://cgos.boardspace.net/9x9/hof2.html > > > > > > - Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Christoph Birk wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Don Dailey wrote: > >> > >>> Christoph, > >>> Let me know when you are finished, what name you are playing under > and > >>> I will do the bayeselo thing to get a better figure. > >>> > >> I am playing using the 'tast-3k' account. Right, now I have 71 games > >> and a rating of 1979 ELO. > >> > >> > >>> Also, I can > >>> throw out any games that were irregular if you can identify them, > such > >>> as if a match started when you were not looking or your interface > got > >>> glitchy or something. > >>> > >> Since I added the GUI I lost no games due to software problems. > >> Only a few "won" games lost to human stupidity :-) > >> > >> I will take a break over the holidays, maybe playing a few more > >> games in the new year, but I guess for my purposes a zero-point > >> "3k-AGA ~=~ 2000 CGOS-ELO" > >> is close enough. Unless we get some other (AGA or KGS) rated > >> players it not make sense to get a more precise rating for the > >> scale. > >> > >> Christoph > >> _______________________________________________ > >> computer-go mailing list > >> computer-go@computer-go.org > >> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > >> > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
