I'm always pretty skeptical of subjective statement even by experts - in any
field,  but then again I have no basis for confirming or refuting such
things being a weak player myself.    It's just the idea that 19x19 is
perfect and 17x17 and 21x21 is crap seems unlikely to me, an admittedly weak
player myself.

I kind of like to think of games (of perfect information) in terms of what
chance does a top human (or future human) player have a beating or drawing a
player who is omniscient in the game.    If that chance is very close to
zero,  it's a good game and it doesn't  make it a "better game" to make the
chances even lower.    In fact what is "better" is pretty subjective, isn't
it?

All games of perfect information are rigged anyway.   They have a
predetermined outcome that will be reached with perfect play,  so they are
basically sophisticated puzzles.

Don



On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Alain Baeckeroot <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Le 15/07/2010 à 19:30, Don Dailey a écrit :
> > In computer checkers it's all about the openings.
> ...
> > So perhaps 9x9 go is starting to be somewhat like that.
> ...
> > Never say never,  but I believe that even 11x11 Go is deep enough so that
> > opening preparation could only play a minor role for the foreseeable
> future.
> ...
> > I'm not suggesting that 19x19 should not be the standard board size for
> go -
>
> Your thoughts remind me something i was told by a strong amateur (kgs 7d)
> about the transition from 17x17 to 19x19 which occured several centuries
> ago.
>  "17x17 is boring"
> because the border have "just the right size" to be stable,
> that is standard well known corner josekis and extensions allow to take the
> border without problem, whereas on the 19x19 there is additional space,
> which
> give weakness, so possibility for invasion/erosion/trouble.
>
> I hope some strong go player on the list can better explain this.
> my 2 cents.
> Alain.
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