On 19x19 I agree with Magnus and I would add that it's almost impossible to
"stay in book" very long as the number of reasonable plays of the first 6
moves (for instance) is already enormous.

Even in chess you can quickly move out of book with non-standard moves that
do not lose and chess is ridiculously simpler than go with respect to the
branching factor.

Don



On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:26 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Quoting Darren Cook <[email protected]>:
>
>  Does anyone have any thoughts of the value of prepared 19x19 openings at
>> the current level of computer go?
>>
>
> The value is very close to zero on 19x19, possibly negative because you
> force the program to play positions it did not volunteer to play. There are
> dozens of playable moves when no urgent joseki has to be played.
>
> I used to have a database of 50000 pro games or so from which Viking (my
> old conventional program) did pattern matching on but it really just made it
> play nicer but not stronger.
>
> Best
> Magnus
>
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