I think you mean 64-bit word :) 2^64 is inconceivably less than 10^224. David
> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of steve uurtamo > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:48 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Team Play (was: Shogi-News...) > > dunno, but even back in the 90's there were 64-byte word machines. > which isn't inconceivably less than what you're looking for. > > s. > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:20 PM, terry mcintyre > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I just have to ask: in what sort of numerical system is 10 to the 224th > > power a single word? > > > > > > Terry McIntyre <[email protected]> > > > > Unix/Linux Systems Administration > > Taking time to do it right saves having to do it twice. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Darren Cook <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 8:09:25 PM > > Subject: [Computer-go] Team Play (was: Shogi-News...) > > > >> best female shogi player lost against a "computer". > > > > http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20101012p2a00m0na012000c.html > > > >> The computer consisted of 3 or 4 different programs, > >> teamed up in some way. Maybe, Darren Cook can get > >> ideas from this for his bot-team which has to play > >> against John Tromp in December 2010 in London. > > > > I've already been pursuing this idea, as I think it is very promising. > > In addition to the unscientific evidence from my sm9 project, I was > > delighted to discover at CG2010 that there were two papers (by the same > > authors) on the subject of team play that give some rigorous results: > > Consultation Algorithm for computer Shogi: Move Decisions by Majority > > Optimistic Select Rule better than Majority Voting System > > > > Even 3-4 instances of the same program, each with some random noise > > added, is able to beat the same program. > > > > Once you have multiple programs with very different strengths, covering > > each other's weaknesses, the gain in strength can be very significant. > > > > Another advantage is it scales very naturally to a cluster. > > > > I have a script that runs for 9x9, controlling Fuego, Mogo, Gnugo, > > Valkyria and Many Faces, using GTP and TCP/IP sockets. But it needs work > > to be more stable, is untested on 19x19, and has no time control (it is > > designed so I can say: "talk among yourselves, take as long as you need, > > and tell me the best move in this situation"). So, I'm fairly > > pessimistic it could be used in December. > > > > Darren > > > > -- > > Darren Cook, Software Researcher/Developer > > > > http://dcook.org/gobet/ (Shodan Go Bet - who will win?) > > http://dcook.org/work/ (About me and my work) > > http://dcook.org/blogs.html (My blogs and articles) > > _______________________________________________ > > Computer-go mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Computer-go mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
