It was funny that the word "word" was assumed to mean a word in the
"computing word" sense. Programmers...
It really does seem odd that an old culture would have a word for
10^224. So I thought it would be good to try to check the accuracy of
the article and have not yet found any other reference that corroborates
this meaning.
According to "A Dictionary of Buddhism" by Damien Keown (available via
Google books), the word "akara" is defined as "...a perceptual image,
constructed by the mind (*manas) from the input of perceptual forms
(*nimitta). Through this psychological mechanism a stable and
structured view of the world is created". I also saw it referenced
with regard to "form" in other contexts such as "the search for the
perfect form."
Perhaps there could have been a miscommunication in translation.
-Matt
On 10/29/2010 10:59 AM, terry mcintyre wrote:
The article says that the name of the program, Akara, is a Buddhist
word which means "10 to the 224th power" -- which suggests an origin
much earlier than "back in the 90s", and a rather interesting
numerical system. Why would the 224th power of 10 be a single word?
224 = 32 * 7 = 2^5 * 7
There is probably an interesting reason to consider 224 as a "special"
number in some taxonomy of numbers. Perhaps it is a series of powers
of 2 times 7 ==> 14, 28, 56, 112, 224
Terry McIntyre <[email protected]>
Unix/Linux Systems Administration
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*From:* David Fotland <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Fri, October 29, 2010 11:49:27 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Computer-go] Team Play (was: Shogi-News...)
I think you mean 64-bit word :) 2^64 is inconceivably less than 10^224.
David
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> dunno, but even back in the 90's there were 64-byte word machines.
> which isn't inconceivably less than what you're looking for.
>
> s.
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:20 PM, terry mcintyre
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > I just have to ask: in what sort of numerical system is 10 to the
224th
> > power a single word?
> >
> >
> > Terry McIntyre <[email protected]
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> >
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> > Taking time to do it right saves having to do it twice.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Darren Cook <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 8:09:25 PM
> > Subject: [Computer-go] Team Play (was: Shogi-News...)
> >
> >> best female shogi player lost against a "computer".
> >
> > http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20101012p2a00m0na012000c.html
> >
> >> The computer consisted of 3 or 4 different programs,
> >> teamed up in some way. Maybe, Darren Cook can get
> >> ideas from this for his bot-team which has to play
> >> against John Tromp in December 2010 in London.
> >
> > I've already been pursuing this idea, as I think it is very promising.
> > In addition to the unscientific evidence from my sm9 project, I was
> > delighted to discover at CG2010 that there were two papers (by the
same
> > authors) on the subject of team play that give some rigorous results:
> > Consultation Algorithm for computer Shogi: Move Decisions by
Majority
> > Optimistic Select Rule better than Majority Voting System
> >
> > Even 3-4 instances of the same program, each with some random noise
> > added, is able to beat the same program.
> >
> > Once you have multiple programs with very different strengths,
covering
> > each other's weaknesses, the gain in strength can be very significant.
> >
> > Another advantage is it scales very naturally to a cluster.
> >
> > I have a script that runs for 9x9, controlling Fuego, Mogo, Gnugo,
> > Valkyria and Many Faces, using GTP and TCP/IP sockets. But it
needs work
> > to be more stable, is untested on 19x19, and has no time control
(it is
> > designed so I can say: "talk among yourselves, take as long as you
need,
> > and tell me the best move in this situation"). So, I'm fairly
> > pessimistic it could be used in December.
> >
> > Darren
> >
> > --
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