On 15/06/2011 00:44, Darren Cook wrote:
just to elaborate the original shodan-go bet was intended to be
" Fischer time control. 40 mins + 20 secs/move."
and was later changed to 110 minutes each, sudden death
see http://dcook.org/gobet/details.html

Yes, we had to give up on that simply because no programs support it,
and I had no way to motivate programmers to add it.
Perhaps Jouni's money could be viewed as a donation to have at least one
program support it at last. (*)

Our Shodan Go Bet time management was also complicated by the need to
play moves between the actual board and the computer.

Funny the details note:
More time would probably favour a MCTS program,

I think, at current hardware levels at least, Zen's results on KGS has
proven me wrong on that.

Darren

*: The commercial programs simply need to see demand. So if anyone feels
strongly about Fischer time control, set up a petition. A bunch of go
programmers won't be enough, but I should think 100+ non-anonymous go
players would be.
The other great way to encourage new features would be for Nick Wedd to
require it for just one of his tournaments. ...but KGS first need to
support it, and you are back to your petition :-)

I would like to see Fischer time supported - and I would prefer it for the events I run.

However, William Shubert has made it clear that it will not be supported on KGS. What deters him is not the work of coding it, that would be easy. It is the work of changing the user interface, and the documentation, in many languages; and then dealing with all the users who have managaed to misunderstand it in various ways, or who see the change as establishing a precedent and consider thathe is now obliged to add support for their own half-baked time system.

I have dealt with users myself, and I sympathise with him.

Nick
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