Hello Jeff, thanks for setting up the relay, and also for posting the sgf with the comments here.
In the other "relay" (tromp vs zen19n) John made a few comments directly after the game. I quote him here: "N7 assumed black would respond to P4 at Q4." "felt already lost when playing N7 [at move 48]" "I guess L7 [at move 46; IA] was already a little desperate." I have uploaded automatic analysis data by ManyFaces. * MC percents at http://www.althofer.de/tromp-zen-03-percents.jpg * Expected Territories at http://www.althofer.de/tromp-zen-03-territory.jpg Ingo. -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:25:47 -0500 > Von: Jeff Nowakowski <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Game 2 goes to Zen: 1-1 > Game 3, with mostly dan-level comments: > > http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/16/PaperTiger-2.sgf > > Zen won by resignation. Series is 2-1 in Zen's favor. > > I got Aja 6d and gogonuts 5d to kibitz, and participation by observer > count was much better, around 60 versus the 260 or so for the > unmoderated game. > > On 01/15/2012 03:03 PM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote: > > On 01/15/2012 10:18 AM, Michael Williams wrote: > >> Kibitzing anything in that room is pointless for all the noise. > > > > For both games, I set up a clone game with moderated chat where only > > dans could kibitz. Unfortunately, at best it only had 10% participation > > (based on observer counts) and the strongest and most frequent > > kibitzers, Aja and gogonuts, kept to the unmoderated game. The one > > exception was Avidya (David Ormerod from gogameguru.com), who provided > > excellent comments. > > > > I'll try and recruit the high level dans before tonight's game, and see > > if I can get the moderated game listed on the Active Games tab next to > > the unmoderated one. If it doesn't work out, I'll stop trying to host > > these, as it takes some effort. > > > > It would be nice if this could be an automated and standard feature of > > KGS events, but I don't see that happening any time soon. > > > > Here are the two dan-kibitz games: > > http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/14/PaperTiger.sgf > > http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/15/PaperTiger.sgf > > > > They are a nice way to review the games with some high-level comments. > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
