It is now replaced by the analysis of game 4: http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/~coulom/CrazyStone/index.html I improved my system a lot in one day.
Smoothness of the histogram depends on the number of playouts, not safety. This one is very smooth because it was running on a big machine instead of my laptop. Congrats to Zen, btw. Rémi On 16 janv. 2012, at 11:34, Isaac Deutsch wrote: > For people who missed it in the Kibitz, Rémi Coulom also put together a very > nice automatic analysis tool for this game: > > http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/~coulom/CrazyStone/CrazyAnalysis.html > > As he stated, it's very experimental (it seems the "Next" link is sometimes > broken??). I still find it very interesting to look at, especially the score > histogram. I like how you can observe the gentle drift of the median to the > right as the game progresses. It's interesting that sometimes the > distribution is very smooth, while other times, it's rough and jagged. I > guess this is related to the safety of groups and/or territory. > > Rémi, will you have further analyses for the upcoming games? I'm sure it > would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! > > Cheers, > Isaac > > Am 16.01.2012 um 08:07 schrieb Ingo Althöfer: > >> Hello Jeff, >> >> thanks for setting up the relay, >> and also for posting the sgf with the comments here. >> >> In the other "relay" (tromp vs zen19n) John made a few >> comments directly after the game. I quote him here: >> "N7 assumed black would respond to P4 at Q4." >> "felt already lost when playing N7 [at move 48]" >> "I guess L7 [at move 46; IA] was already a little desperate." >> >> I have uploaded automatic analysis data by ManyFaces. >> * MC percents at >> http://www.althofer.de/tromp-zen-03-percents.jpg >> * Expected Territories at >> http://www.althofer.de/tromp-zen-03-territory.jpg >> >> Ingo. >> >> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >>> Datum: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:25:47 -0500 >>> Von: Jeff Nowakowski <[email protected]> >>> An: [email protected] >>> Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Game 2 goes to Zen: 1-1 >> >>> Game 3, with mostly dan-level comments: >>> >>> http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/16/PaperTiger-2.sgf >>> >>> Zen won by resignation. Series is 2-1 in Zen's favor. >>> >>> I got Aja 6d and gogonuts 5d to kibitz, and participation by observer >>> count was much better, around 60 versus the 260 or so for the >>> unmoderated game. >>> >>> On 01/15/2012 03:03 PM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote: >>>> On 01/15/2012 10:18 AM, Michael Williams wrote: >>>>> Kibitzing anything in that room is pointless for all the noise. >>>> >>>> For both games, I set up a clone game with moderated chat where only >>>> dans could kibitz. Unfortunately, at best it only had 10% participation >>>> (based on observer counts) and the strongest and most frequent >>>> kibitzers, Aja and gogonuts, kept to the unmoderated game. The one >>>> exception was Avidya (David Ormerod from gogameguru.com), who provided >>>> excellent comments. >>>> >>>> I'll try and recruit the high level dans before tonight's game, and see >>>> if I can get the moderated game listed on the Active Games tab next to >>>> the unmoderated one. If it doesn't work out, I'll stop trying to host >>>> these, as it takes some effort. >>>> >>>> It would be nice if this could be an automated and standard feature of >>>> KGS events, but I don't see that happening any time soon. >>>> >>>> Here are the two dan-kibitz games: >>>> http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/14/PaperTiger.sgf >>>> http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/15/PaperTiger.sgf >>>> >>>> They are a nice way to review the games with some high-level comments. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Computer-go mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> >> -- >> NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! >> Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
