Hmmm, something tells me that I shouldn't wade into this discussion, but what the heck.....it's a slow day and I've already been productive enough. I'll deal with the larger screen part, as, to me, having more desk space available is a no-brainer.

The original message from you, Tony, said "And I can't imagine a job where a worker with a slightly bigger screen
would actually be more productive than one without, all other things
being equal." There was no mention of RAM, CPU, etc., in your first message: that came later. But, let's assume you meant it. That leads to two cases, as I see it:

'All other things being equal' to me implies that you have whatever RAM, CPU, etc., you currently have (if talking about one individual getting a bigger screen), or the same RAM, CPU, etc., as your colleagues (if talking about more than one individual, all with the same computer equipment).

So, let's take the second case first: where I work, we have standard 2 GB of RAM for all staff and students, and most of the CPUs are within one small clock step of each other (2.4-2.6 GHz, same processor release: we get pretty good discounts from Dell and we upgrade everybody in a work unit at the same time), and all have LCD monitors of the same size (19" widescreen). Note, we are not even discussing the difference between CRT and LCD. One of our students uses ArcGIS, so we got her a large screen (24" widescreen), so she could have the current map being displayed at a decent size, as well as have the various ArcGIS windows open on the side (if you use ArcGIS, you know what I'm talking about, if you don't use ArcGIS, you'll assume I'm blowing smoke and there's nothing I can do to change your mind :) ). Her productivity has certainly gone up, not to mention her mood. She smiles more often, she's not leaning forward with her nose inches from the screen and frowning at it, straining her neck muscles, etc. While the mood part may not be of much importance to you, it certainly is to me: when I ask for something to be done, it is received with a smile, not a grumpy look; it is done faster; there are fewer mistakes in the work; she can position things better on the map without having to continually enlarge it then reduce it to see how it looks, etc. The best $700 investment I can think of that I've made recently.

Now, let's look at the first case: I had a 24" monitor, and upgraded to a 27". All other things on my computer are the same, including the screen res. I do a lot of programming and report writing. Comparing old and new code side-by-side, or being able to keep open the code, debug and output windows open on the same screen are just two of the things I do while programming. With more real estate and the same font size (not pixel size which would simply enlarge the font on a larger monitor with the same resolution as my old one, but same readable size on screen), I see more of each window. Does this help me? Sure! When writing technical reports, I often keep open the old report (typically last year's) to see what the recommendations were and did we meet them this time around while I'm writing the new one: I don't have to swap between windows, so no need to use either the mouse or Alt-tab, just glance over at the other report and write away on the new one. Does this help me? Yup! (Yes, I could have last year's printed version on my desktop, but that simply slows me down because I have to glance from the screen to the desk, etc., while I'm touch typing away.) When I look at graphs going into the reports, keeping the old and the new side by side helps in comparing the two: I don't have to print them out, yet can tell at a glance what the differences are. When editing photos, I can keep the original in a window on the side, while I can edit a copy and see the changes. Does this help me? You bet! While all these can be done on a smaller monitor, having a large one makes it much easier to spot subtle differences in photo editing. Plus, I don't have to calibrate two side by side monitors separately. I have to ask myself: what price to the business for saving me eyestrain; what price to the business for my ability to do things faster because of the larger monitor; what price to the business that I feel valued? Certainly the price is much smaller than my salary, but it is also much smaller than the extra they would be paying me because it would take me longer to do the job otherwise.

So, I'd say that just because *you* "can't imagine a job where a worker with a slightly bigger screen would actually be more productive than one without" doesn't mean that other people cannot imagine it or actually experience it. Maybe you should let your imagination roam freer than it has heretofore! Please don't take refuge in the "slightly bigger screen" and that you meant the difference between 19" and 20", or some such thing. Your response was to Tom's "Replacing a 19-inch CRT with a 24-inch LCD ". I really enjoy the fact that you carry the Windows flag very proudly in this forum: it leads to good discussions. But, I think in this case, you might need to re-imagine your answer. (I'm not holding my breath, though: there's too much pollen around these days for that..... ;) )

Adil


At 02:24 PM 5/5/2008, you wrote:
Date:    Mon, 5 May 2008 14:24:13 -0400
From:    Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LCD monitor question

I specifically said more RAM might help, which is what you need to
have multiple apps running at once. Go ahead and drop your RAM to
512mb and get two 50 inch screens. You will NOT be more productive.

I mostly do graphics. I have a macro that runs the 5 apps I need to do
this. I do NOT feel the need to be able to SEE any but ONE app at a
time. When I need to transfer files I use the taskbar. When I need to
switch apps I may also use alt-tab.

I suppose we could time the difference between how long it takes you
to click a window and work in it, compared to me alt-tabbing to it. I
doubt you save 10 seconds a day, if that much. And then there's my
point of liking many of these windows maximized, like Photoshop. In
that case, you're alt-tabbing also.


On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Snyder, Mark (IT Civ)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, you reject why I find it more productive or am I 'whining' by
>  claiming I often need more than one application window open at the same
>  time?  What do you do with a computer in your job?
>
>
>  Thank you,
>
>  Mark Snyder


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