Now this is good...no smart ass toys r us remark anywhere.

I agree RAID controllers can cause a very bad day...as can failed HD's.  Can
we agree that while MTBF has gone up, that hard drives are not mythical
machines that never fail?

A 25 user client base needing access to data 24/7.  The client wants minimum
downtime.  What would you build this client so you don't get a call about a
HD failure and his 25 users sitting twittling their thumbs?

I'm open to any solution that works.

Thanks.

Mike

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:15 AM, John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> mike,
>
> You should look at real-world examples sometime.
>
> In one lab where I spend a bit of time, there are about 80 computer server
> systems.  Five years ago, all of them had RAID, and there would be a hard
> drive failure out of the 300 or so hard drives at least once a month.  Pull
> it out, drop a new one in.  About three times a year, a RAID controller
> would go bad - disassemble everything, put in the spare identical RAID
> controller, be back and running in a day.  Every year, maybe twice a year,
> there would be a RAID controller failure and no more replacements.  Then
> you
> rebuild everything from backup onto new hardware.
>
> Today, there are some RAID on some of the older servers, but no one buys a
> system with RAID any more.  Not worth the expense of having to buy
> multiple,
> identical RAID controllers at the same time.  And, the current best
> practices are often to use shared storage on the network - NAS, SAN, etc.
> Some of the NAS have software-based RAID mirroring to allow for a drive
> failure without losing data for even a minute.
>
> But what the admins are really looking at is having the same data
> replicated
> on multiple NAS.  You can do a lot of that with a good SAN, but
> interoperability issues and expense can limit you there.  Also, hardly any
> server runs its own local database.  There are dedicated database machines,
> some with Oracle, some with MySQL, and they are all replicated to other
> machines on the network.
>
> Does this help you any?
>
> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:59 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm still waiting for the
> > solution that improves on the old RAID technology..now we sit and wait
> for
> >
>
> --
> John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own
>
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