Actually, I think the REAL problem is letting others define who/what you
are.
The right demands characteristics that are easily vilified to be part of
"Liberal".
Once you fall into that trap, you are forced to continually define who/what
you are/think/act in terms of another's definition- which is generally a
moving target.
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From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Vicky Staubly
Sent: 02/11/2009 2:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Chris Dunford wrote:
>> I can't help but notice you did not address the question - why do most
>> liberals appear to prefer progressive?
>
> Pretty simple answer: because Limbaugh and the rest of the neocon media
> comedians have managed to turn "liberal" into something akin to
"communist"
> in the fifties--an unpatriotic America-hater.
>
> I still use "liberal" because I am neither. I am a liberal patriotic
> America-lover. Limbaugh thinks this is an oxymoron, but he is wrong as
> usual. (Hard to say whether he actually believes the stuff he says or just
> says it because it makes him a lot of money--he certainly has to know that
a
> lot of his rant is factually incorrect. And if we're looking for someone
> unpatriotic, let's nominate someone who has actually said, in so many
words,
> that he hopes Obama will fail.)
Thanks, Chris. I too call myself a liberal, as do my parents, my aunts
and uncles and cousins. I understand (I don't remember personally) that
I went on my first civil rights march in a stroller. :-)
>> [Progressive] implies change is valuable for the sake of
>> change itself
>
> Sez who? I still prefer "liberal", but "progressive" doesn't have the
> meaning you impute. A progressive is someone who wants progress. Progress
> means improvement. That is not "change for the sake of change".
And, as software developers, we could point out that in contrast to
"progress" (good change), there is "regress" (bad change), as in
"regression testing" (testing for features in software which used to
work, but no longer do because a developer made some change).
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