Obviously I'm not saying that I or anyone else should have ZERO criteria when shopping. What I am saying is that if you demand EVERYTHING you want at a totally unrealistic price, you're going to be disappointed.

And as for "money is no object": my first Mac laptop, for which I waited MANY years, was a used Clamshell with a total value of $25. I used it gratefully for years. My next laptop was another used one, with a slightly damaged screen. I didn't have the screen fixed--it would have cost far too much--but the computer did everything I needed, and I could even do graphics on it, since the screen blemish was slight.

You don't have to be rich to afford a Mac. But to demand the LATEST model, 17" laptop, for a Wal-Mart discount price? THAT'S unrealistic.

--Constance Warner


On Mar 30, 2009, at 10:39 AM, mike wrote:

Constance, when you go shopping are you saying you have ZERO criteria?
NONE? You must be unbelievably rich. For the rest of us who have normal jobs, make normal amounts of money...money does have to come into play at
some point.

Not everyone can live with the 'money is no object' attitude some have on
this list.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Constance Warner <cawar...@his.com> wrote:

I still say, that going shopping with preconceived notions and requirements
is fundamentally unrealistic. The real world does not organize itself
according to our wishes. If she's even thinking of buying a Mac [which from
context it's clear that she's NOT]  she needs to look at Macs
overall--quality, price, everything. If price is the only criterion, well,
that's her choice; but if she wants a Mac at an unrealistically low
price--well, that's just wishful thinking.

Cubic zirconia isn't fake anything; it's real cubic zirconia, and a lot of fun. And an HP isn't a fake computer, but then a Tata Nano isn't a fake car, either. It's just not the same as a Toyota or a Honda, for which one
can expect to pay a bit more.

--Constance Warner



On Mar 30, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Chris Dunford wrote:

 Well, if she started out her quest [for a laptop] with a set of
inflexible requirements that the real world might not be able to
meet--including parts of the real world like computer stores--she's
limited her options and determined the outcome of her shopping trip
before she's even started.

It's like saying, "I want a flawless one-carat stone, but I require
that the ring should cost no more than $100."  Guess what?  You're
getting cubic zirconia!


Constance, wanting a laptop for under $1,000 is neither unreasonable nor
impossible. The parts of the real world that are unable to meet her
requirements are not "computer stores" but "Apple stores".

As to cubic zirconia, the analogy doesn't hold because, your personal
opinion of it notwithstanding, her HP is not a fake computer.


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