Not quite sure how I 'changed the facts'--everything I posted was factual. It's certainly true that you can get a Mac laptop for less than $1K, if you don't demand the latest fancy model, you don't want it instantly, and you're willing to do some research. It's all a matter of tradeoffs.

If Lady Shopright is happy with her cheaper Windows machine, then hooray for her. Caveat emptor, and all that. It's too bad she didn't have more lead time to plan, research, and/or save. Actually, since Lady Shopright's needs [for her new computer] are hypothetical, it's hard to advise her on what she should have bought. If her needs are average [i.e. no high-end professional graphics; no scientific number-crunching; etc.] and her budget is limited, I'd advise her to buy one of the neat little netbooks and a paperback guide to Linux. The typical netbook is featherweight and comes with an office suite.

I'm not irritated by her personal choice; I just don't like the deceptive rhetoric and the silly attitudes of the commercial.

It's true, the art of the commercial is the art of partial truth and distortion.

--Constance Warner
On Mar 30, 2009, at 2:13 PM, mike wrote:

Again, changing the facts won't win your argument.

She got what she wanted, for the price she wanted...just because your
irritated it wasn't a mac doesn't mean she didn't.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Constance Warner <cawar...@his.com> wrote:



You don't have to be rich to afford a Mac. But to demand the LATEST model,
17" laptop, for a Wal-Mart discount price?   THAT'S unrealistic.

--Constance Warner



On Mar 30, 2009, at 10:39 AM, mike wrote:

Constance, when you go shopping are you saying you have ZERO criteria?
NONE? You must be unbelievably rich. For the rest of us who have normal jobs, make normal amounts of money...money does have to come into play at
some point.

Not everyone can live with the 'money is no object' attitude some have on
this list.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Constance Warner <cawar...@his.com>
wrote:

 I still say, that going shopping with preconceived notions and
requirements
is fundamentally unrealistic. The real world does not organize itself according to our wishes. If she's even thinking of buying a Mac [which
from
context it's clear that she's NOT]  she needs to look at Macs
overall--quality, price, everything. If price is the only criterion,
well,
that's her choice; but if she wants a Mac at an unrealistically low
price--well, that's just wishful thinking.

Cubic zirconia isn't fake anything; it's real cubic zirconia, and a lot
of
fun. And an HP isn't a fake computer, but then a Tata Nano isn't a fake car, either. It's just not the same as a Toyota or a Honda, for which
one
can expect to pay a bit more.

--Constance Warner



On Mar 30, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Chris Dunford wrote:

 Well, if she started out her quest [for a laptop] with a set of

inflexible requirements that the real world might not be able to
meet--including parts of the real world like computer stores-- she's limited her options and determined the outcome of her shopping trip
before she's even started.

It's like saying, "I want a flawless one-carat stone, but I require that the ring should cost no more than $100." Guess what? You're
getting cubic zirconia!


Constance, wanting a laptop for under $1,000 is neither unreasonable nor impossible. The parts of the real world that are unable to meet her
requirements are not "computer stores" but "Apple stores".

As to cubic zirconia, the analogy doesn't hold because, your personal
opinion of it notwithstanding, her HP is not a fake computer.



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