Name someone in the US that is using them.  Anyone?  I'll give you a hint,
it's the maker of a GPS tracker for kids.  That's it.  I never said anything
regarding the length of time this has been out...12 years and it's still not
standard.  You are changing the point of what I said just enough to again
try and be 'right'.

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:36 PM, t.piwowar <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Jan 31, 2010, at 3:32 PM, mike wrote:
>
>> Yes in fact it is non-standard, take the glasses off and read a little
>> more
>> about it.  Apple used this sim for the one purpose of not allowing the
>> standard sims to be placed in the device.  The micro sim is not a 'thing
>> of
>> the future' it is just a level of control
>>
>
> Gramps, dem dar new-fangled micro-SIMs have been around for 11 years and
> standardized 7 years ago.  And it is backwards compatible too.
>
> "The micro-SIM was developed by the European Telecommunications Standards
> Institute along with SCP, 3GPP (UTRAN/GERAN), 3GPP2 (CDMA2000), ARIB,
> GSMAssociaton (GSMA SCaG and GSMNA), GlobalPlatform, Liberty Alliance, and
> the Open Mobile Alliance (OMA) for the purpose of fitting in into devices
> otherwise too small for a mini-SIM card.[4] [5] The form factor was
> mentioned in the Dec 1998 3GPP SMG9 UMTS Working Party which is the
> standards setting body for GSM SIM cards[6]and the form factor was agreed
> upon in late 2003"
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro-SIM
>
> And quit waving your cane at me!
>
>
>
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