Scott,
I am treading on shaky ground here, so be a bit careful in how you interpret
this.
When I do this on the PC platform, I work from the unpacked files of a
downloaded .zip file (see below for the source of this file). There is a
pre-built concordance.exe and libconcord.dll plus a file giving information
about the .URL of the LogiTech Web site to contact. In addition to the 3
aforementioned files (concordance.exe, libconcord.dll and "Harmon Link.URL"),
the downloaded .zip file comes with a cmd.bat file which invokes concordance as
follows
-> concordance.exe -l LearnIr.EZTut.
So, at least, knowingly, I don't think congruity is being invoked.
I am then prompted for what I want to do, I enter 'H' to indicate I wish to
input an ASCII string representation of the hex code. At that point the
program seems to make contact with the LogiTech Web site and then adds the code
to device's specified database.
I was believing (hoping???) the Mac version was the same, just built for the
Mac instead of the PC.
JJRussell
PS: In the learn_ir_command routine there is a prompt that looks very similar
to the one I am seeing in the PC version, except there is no 'H' option.
The instructions and procedure are from this Web page
http://www.avforums.com/forums/remote-controls/1510519-guide-getting-pronto-hex-codes-into-your-harmony-remote.html
which, on a PC, I followed in cookbook like fashion.
Just for completeness, here is the contents of "Harmony Link.URL"
[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://members.harmonyremote.com/EasyZapper/
IDList=
HotKey=0
[{000214A0-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}]
Prop3=19,2
On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Scott Talbert
<s...@techie.net<mailto:s...@techie.net>> wrote:
Hmm, upon looking further, Congruity (the python-based GUI which uses the
libconcord backend) does appear to have a capability where you can enter
Pronto Hex codes. Are you using Congruity?
It does still appear to require you to have a remote connected, though.
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013, Scott Talbert wrote:
Are you sure you are doing this with concordance? If so, how are you
doing it, e.g., what command line option(s) are you using?
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013, Russell, J.J. wrote:
Scott,
The issue is not with learning IR codes from an existing remote, it is
with entering raw Pronto Hex Codes. These are codes that exist neither
in the LogiTech provided list of commands for my AV receiver nor as any
'button' on the AV remote, so there is no source remote to 'learn' the
codes from. My only source is for these hex codes is in the Excel
spreadsheet (read ASCII text).
This is a functionality that exists in the PC version of concordance
where I can 'cut-and-paste' the raw hex codes from the spreadsheet when
prompted by concordance which then kindly uploads them to my LogiTech
list of available commands. (I've done this on a PC with a handful of
the approximately 50 codes I want to add for my AV receiver.)
Sorry if I was not clear. Thanks, for you prompt responses,
JJRussell
On Feb 2, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Scott Talbert
<s...@techie.net<mailto:s...@techie.net>> wrote:
The way the IR learning capability in concordance works is this: At the
Logitech website, you tell it that you want to Learn an IR code and select
which command(s) you want to learn. You then download the XML file
(LearnIr.EZTut) and run concordance on it. Concordance then reads the
file so it can figure out which commands to learn (this part is remote
model agnostic). It then will communicate with your Harmony remote and
tell you to press keys on the remote from which you wish to learn (this
part is remote model specific). Concordance captures these values and
will then upload the information back to the Logitech website - again this
part is model-agnostic.
Scott
On Sat, 2 Feb 2013, Russell, J.J. wrote:
I've taken a quick look through the concordance code that I downloaded
for the MAC. I see no reference to any option that allows pronto hex
codes to be uploaded to the LogiTech database. For instance, I see no
query similar to the one that prompts me on a Windows machine asking
what I wish to do next, quit, enter hex code, etc.
While you know the software better than I, loading pronto hex codes to
the LogiTech database would seem to be independent of which remote
controller one has. Admittedly, the database itself is associated with
a specific LogiTech device, but this would seem to be only an
organizational association, i.e. the LogiTech account itself is
associated with a particular remote. The identity of the actual physical
device (be it a 100 or 900) would seem to be relevant only when the
device is actually downloaded, not in committing hex codes to the
database. (This is speaking only about entering new hex codes, not any
of the other options like saving configurations, etc, which obviously
interact with the specific remote.)
Of course, trying to outguess how a software system is constructed and
what it depends on is risky business, so I am willing to believe I could
be wrong on this point. But at this point, my impression is that the
software for the MAC does not contain an option to upload new Pronto hex
codes as does the prebuilt ddl and exe for Windows.
JJRussell
On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Scott Talbert
<s...@techie.net<mailto:s...@techie.net>> wrote:
Sorry, what I was saying is that support for the 900 was recently added to
Concordance, not the Logitech software. I'm sure support has been present
in the Logitech software for some time.
As far as your website concerns go, Concordance doesn't replace the
Logitech website. You would still use the Logitech website to produce the
IR Learning or config update files and then use Concordance (plus possibly
Congruity) to write them to the remote.
Scott
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Russell, J.J. wrote:
Thank you for your quick response. I'm not sure I will be able to try
what you suggested. Things have picked back up on my day job, so time
has become limited.
Please note that I have been able to successfully upload new Pronto Hex
Codes for my LogiTech 900 database and subsequently use them on 900. I
did the uploading on a PC at work, but did the reprogramming on my MAC
using the standard LogiTech support tool, so I guess I am a little
puzzled by your statement
"Support for the 900 was added relatively recently and it is not in a
released version."
since I did just do the standard download for the PC and it seemed to
work fine.
Somewhat off this problem,
1. Yes the two database questions (removing commands and rearranging the
commands) where both questions relating to the LogiTech database. I
noticed when I had asked LogiTech to add a couple of commands (before I
discovered concordance), the new commands were added at the end, so
either they were just being expedient or even LogiTech has no interface
to do this kind of manipulation.
2. With about 50 commands to add, it is kind of a pain to add one
command at a time, but, okay, it is a one- time deal. I would love to
script this so that I could more easily check for errors. Doing this
one at-a-time by hand invites typos, like the command I misnamed.
JJRussell
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Talbert [mailto:s...@techie.net<http://techie.net>]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:42 PM
To:
concordance-devel@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:concordance-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [concordance-devel] Concordance on the MAC
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Russell, J.J. wrote:
Let me amend one of my previous statements. The name of the new
command
**does** appear in the LearnIr.EZTut file. I just missed it. Sorry
about that misinformation. I've attached the downloaded file. So it
may be what you hinted at, that Safari is not correctly conveying the
right information. If this is just a browser issue, I'll try Firefox
or Chrome.
I was able to parse your file just fine, so I don't think that is actually the
problem.
It appears that concordance is trying to download or learn the command
from the remote. It (concordance) wants to attach to the remote. I
have done this on a PC at work (clearly no remote attached) and
running concordance asks what I want to do, and I select the option to
add a Pronto Hex code, which, after I cut-and-paste said code in, it
transfers it to the browser's LogiTech window and nicely adds the command.
I am using a 900.
This is likely the problem. Support for the 900 was added relatively recently
and it is not in a released version. So, for the time being, you're going to
have to checkout the zwave_work_branch from CVS in order to get the version
that supports the 900. Additionally, it hasn't been tested on a Mac, to my
knowledge, so it will be interesting to see if it works.
1. Anyway to delete a command from the list once I add it (I missed
named a command)?
Are you talking about on the Logitech website? If so, I'm not sure.
2. Anyway to rearrange the LogiTech's list of commands?
Again, I'm assuming you mean on the website? If so, I'm not sure. I haven't
used the IR learn capability much.
Scott
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