There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1a. OT:Shameless self-promotion
From: Adam Walker
1b. Re: OT:Shameless self-promotion
From: Daniel Bowman
1c. Re: OT:Shameless self-promotion
From: Tony Harris
1d. Re: OT:Shameless self-promotion
From: Roger Mills
1e. Re: OT:Shameless self-promotion
From: John Erickson
2a. Re: YAEUT: Overreflexivity
From: Matthew Turnbull
2b. Re: YAEUT: Overreflexivity
From: Garth Wallace
2c. Re: YAEUT: Overreflexivity
From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets
3a. Re: Name That Glyph | Round Six | Pseudoglyphs
From: A. Mendes
3b. Re: Name That Glyph | Round Six | Pseudoglyphs
From: John Erickson
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1a. OT:Shameless self-promotion
Posted by: "Adam Walker" [email protected]
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:17 am ((PST))
This message includes no conlang-rlated material, only the injunction that
you go buy a copy of the March issue of Asimov's and celebrate with me the
contents of p. 79, my first published fiction.
Adam who is still floating
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1b. Re: OT:Shameless self-promotion
Posted by: "Daniel Bowman" [email protected]
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:21 am ((PST))
Congrats!!!
2012/1/26 Adam Walker <[email protected]>
> This message includes no conlang-rlated material, only the injunction that
> you go buy a copy of the March issue of Asimov's and celebrate with me the
> contents of p. 79, my first published fiction.
>
> Adam who is still floating
>
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1c. Re: OT:Shameless self-promotion
Posted by: "Tony Harris" [email protected]
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:43 am ((PST))
Zápándî! (Congratulations!)
On 01/26/2012 10:16 AM, Adam Walker wrote:
> This message includes no conlang-rlated material, only the injunction that
> you go buy a copy of the March issue of Asimov's and celebrate with me the
> contents of p. 79, my first published fiction.
>
> Adam who is still floating
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1d. Re: OT:Shameless self-promotion
Posted by: "Roger Mills" [email protected]
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:36 pm ((PST))
From: Daniel Bowman <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: OT:Shameless self-promotion
Congrats!!!
==========================
X2 !! and envy envy envy...............
2012/1/26 Adam Walker <[email protected]>
> This message includes no conlang-rlated material, only the injunction that
> you go buy a copy of the March issue of Asimov's and celebrate with me the
> contents of p. 79, my first published fiction.
>
> Adam who is still floating
>
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1e. Re: OT:Shameless self-promotion
Posted by: "John Erickson" [email protected]
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:54 pm ((PST))
Fantastic! Congrats!
Is there anything conlangy in the story?
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2a. Re: YAEUT: Overreflexivity
Posted by: "Matthew Turnbull" [email protected]
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:59 am ((PST))
I think it's more likely that it's a marked word order that's unmarked
for teams, besides Team Canada hardly seems like a noun-adj phrase to
me, mostly because it would then be *Team Canadian. Anyway I doubt
these constructions are new, I recall using them in grade school in
the late 90s and also, Team Rocket always seemes gramatical to me. I
suspect that it must be something unique to proper names.
On 1/25/12, Herman Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/25/2012 11:52 AM, Adam Walker wrote:
>
>>> OT. Another example of this sort of thing is the creation of
>>> organisational titles like "Team GB" instead of "The British Olympic
>>> Team". Since when has English put its adjectives after the noun? And
>>> what's wrong with a normal adjective like "British"?
>>>
>>
>> That's Twilight-speak. At least I associate the Team X phenom with the
>> whole Team Edward/Team Jacob blah-blah. I don't recall ever hearing it
>> before that. Teenage popculture is invasive and almost guaranteed to
>> spread, at least temporarily.
>>
>> Adam
>
> Pokémon usage predates Twilight. Team Rocket, Team Magma, Team Aqua,
> Team Galactic, Team Plasma. Wikipedia says Twilight (the novel) was
> published in 2005, but the first three generations of Pokémon games were
> out before 2005. I wonder if those Twilight fans could have picked up
> the usage from Pokémon? Pokémon games were translated from Japanese;
> does Japanese put the word "team" first in cases like this or could
> there have been an earlier English usage that the Japanese translators
> were imitating?
>
--
Sent from my mobile device
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2b. Re: YAEUT: Overreflexivity
Posted by: "Garth Wallace" [email protected]
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:34 am ((PST))
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Matthew Turnbull <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think it's more likely that it's a marked word order that's unmarked
> for teams, besides Team Canada hardly seems like a noun-adj phrase to
> me, mostly because it would then be *Team Canadian. Anyway I doubt
> these constructions are new, I recall using them in grade school in
> the late 90s and also, Team Rocket always seemes gramatical to me. I
> suspect that it must be something unique to proper names.
I think it's a similar construction to the names of projects ("Project
X-1", "Operation Condor", etc.)
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2c. Re: YAEUT: Overreflexivity
Posted by: "Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets" [email protected]
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:35 pm ((PST))
On 26 January 2012 19:34, Garth Wallace <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think it's a similar construction to the names of projects ("Project
> X-1", "Operation Condor", etc.)
>
It also seems similar to the use of titles: President Roosevelt, general
Eisenhower, Lord Kelvin, mister Wallace...
--
Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets.
http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/
http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/
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3a. Re: Name That Glyph | Round Six | Pseudoglyphs
Posted by: "A. Mendes" [email protected]
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:05 pm ((PST))
Hi everyone,
My laptop charger died a week or so ago. Now that it's no longer a
decorative paperweight, I can get back into it.
See everyone next Wednesday for round 7.
Cheers,
Andrew
On Jan 10, 2012 4:26 PM, "A. Mendes" <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's week six conlangers. Next week, I'll begin posting some sample
> sentences with the aggregate data. This way we'll see the ideographs in
> action. I can't wait.
>
> Time to assign stone meaning:
>
> http://pseudoglyphs.wordpress.com/2012/01/10/name-that-glyph-round-six/
>
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3b. Re: Name That Glyph | Round Six | Pseudoglyphs
Posted by: "John Erickson" [email protected]
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:41 pm ((PST))
I was wondering when the next round would be. Sorry about your laptop.
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