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1a. Re: OT: Russian?
From: Sam Stutter
2a. Hi
From: Brian Weekes
3a. Re: Jan29 verb class names
From: neo gu
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1a. Re: OT: Russian?
Posted by: "Sam Stutter" [email protected]
Date: Sun Feb 3, 2013 3:34 pm ((PST))
One of those islands being Riker's Island. Euphemism? First name might be
"Marttiini" - the people who make fillet knives.
On 3 Feb 2013, at 23:28, Sam Stutter <[email protected]> wrote:
> Looks like English to me - but I'm just about to go to bed now and am unable
> to brain.
>
> Possibly a name, maybe Matthew, or some version of it, then a surname, maybe
> Finlay or England or something.
>
> Next line, almost certainly "Island" then possible "around" and what looks
> like "Hunts".
>
> A memento of meeting someone called Matthew Finlay on an island near
> somewhere called Hunts? There's a few islands between Hunts Point and La
> Guardia, New York. Where did you find the thing?
>
> On 3 Feb 2013,at 22:18, Nikolay Ivankov <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Hard to interpret, really. The last letter of the first word may be î from
>> Romanian alphabet, bit I' can't be sure at all. Also, though people
>> sometimes write <т> as something like m with a bar above (first word again)
>> it looks much more like <tt> with s single stroke. Also the first letter of
>> the second word doesn't seems to be Russian handwitten script at all.
>>
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>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Brian Woodward <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> http://imgur.com/rmv7WMX.jpg
>>>
>>> Hopefully this link works. I'd like help with translating what this says.
>>> Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Brian
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2a. Hi
Posted by: "Brian Weekes" [email protected]
Date: Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:45 pm ((PST))
Hello!http://www.charlottesportsgroup.com/components/com_content/google141.html?wflgwflgwflgefd=em.jieg&oemm=mkv.wg&ceom=wflg
2/4/2013 1:44:58 AM
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3a. Re: Jan29 verb class names
Posted by: "neo gu" [email protected]
Date: Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:50 pm ((PST))
Here's the latest update, with thanks to the previous commenters. Jan29 is one
of theose conlangs where all verbs are univalent: most words are pairs of noun
or pronoun plus verb or case. The verbs come in different classes according to
the role of the arguments they're paired with. There are 5 classes. What I'm
trying to decide now before I go too far is what to call each class and what
single-letter abbreviation to use in the vocabulary (after V for verb). So,
more comments are welcome! Some examples:
• VS - verbs that combine with the subject: large, fall, run
xaufatini liporce.
xaufa-tin-i li-porc-e
dog-run-Aor Rel-large-Dur
"The large dog ran."
• VL - verbs that combine with the locatee: inside
ñôkulme fèstalo.
ñôko-lm-e fèsta-lo
cat-in-Dur house-Loc
"The cat is in the house."
I tried combining these with the location noun first, but locatee actually
works better.
• VP - verbs that combine with the patient: throw, break
pecnowari jûmen tas teknêkòpti.
pecno-war-i jûme-n ta-s teknê-kòpt-i
rock-throw-Aor boy-Agt Sub-Rsl window-break-Aor
"The boy threw the rock, breaking the window."
• VE - verbs that combine with the experiencer: see, think
feniki jûmek.
fè-nik-i jûme-k
1S-see-Aor boy-Img
"I saw the boy."
• VT - verbs that combine with the theme: give, say
saren nami jûfise mocaxlasti.
sare-n na-mi jûfi-se mo-caxla-st-i
man-Agt Rfx-Abl girl-All IndS-book-give-Aor
"The man gave the girl a book."
Mêrin foqoni tafri sòprasolpi.
Mêri-n fè-qon-i ta-fr-i sòpra-solp-i
Mary-Agt 1S-hear-Aor Sub-say-Aor picture-fall-Aor
"Mary told me that the picture fell."
Rel- relative pronoun
Rfx- refers to agent
Sub- begins subordinate clause
-Abl source
-Agt agent
-All destination
-Aor aoristic aspect
-Dur durative aspect
-Img what's perceived
-Loc location
-Rsl result
c = [S]
x = [X]
q = [q]
ñ = [J]
è = [E]
ò = [O]
circumflex = long vowel
However, the syntax doesn't require any given word to be in the clause. Both
rock-throw-Aor and boy-Agt are complete sentences by themselves.
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