Well the Court has professed its desire to have strict scrutiny mean the
same thing in all contexts (Employment Division v. Smith, 1990), but to
date has only met strict scrutiny since Korematsu in just a handful of
First Amendment cases about abortion protests and voting (Frisby v.
Schultz, 1988; Burson v. Freeman, 1992; and Hill v. Colorado, 2000)
until yesterday.

This does raise the question now about employment and affirmative
action. Just a plus factor to consider for employers given the myriad of
factors? So maybe the civil rights groups were wrong to settle out
Taxman v. Piscataway after the Court granted cert a couple of years
back? It was the same Court, yet not many folks thought the Court would
uphold the retention policy then.

Grutter will seemingly have to be limited to higher ed given the
language justifying the deference to academic institutions (though if
so, then who cares about the military and the bz leaders amici briefs as
O'Connor seemingly does?) It looks more like diversity just became a
BFOQ for universities.

Martin J. Sweet
Assistant Professor
Department of Political Science
Dickinson College
P.O. Box 1773
Carlisle, PA 17013


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RE: whether Grutter  is consistent with other Supreme Court uses of the
strict scrutiny standard:.

I think it is clear that there has never been a uniform strict scrutiny
standard, so I don't think anything is new here. Strict scrutiny for
First Amendment issues is different than for equal protection is
different than for substantive due process etc.

And, even within equal protection race cases,  the Bakke strict scrutiny
test  with its  "race okay as  a factor"  diverged from the Croson "race
ok only used as minimally as conceivably possible to achieve narrowly
defined goal."  Indeed, probably the key UMICh litigation issue was
whether  the  Bakke   more deferential scrutiny  survived
Croson/Adarand. Hopwood said it didn't. Grutter made clear that it did.

As to whether a uniform level of deference should apply whenever the
"strict scrutiny" label is used, I think it can't if you want to make
wise and just decisions. Again as O'Connor stated in Grutter "context is
everything."

For example, the Croson objective mathematical statistical analysis
simply won't work for the more subjective fact specific university
admission context, unless you turn university admissions into a strictly
by the numbers game, which the Court has consistently rejected.

Croson's government contracting decisions are by their nature  more
mathematical  (lowest bid has to win to avoid patronage problems). Ditto
the interest of "remedying past discrimination" . You can put a number
to it, to some extent, at least as narrowly defined by the court. What
were the actual depressive effects of City's own past discrimination on
the number of minority contracts  with the City of Richmond? What is the
minimum race preference that is needed to reverse those depressive
effects?  How did one arrive at these numbers?  Were the methods
statistically valid? Are there less discriminatory means that would
achieve those same numbers?   These are questions capable, at least
theoretically, of numerical proof.

In contrast university admissions decisions are notoriously contextual,
factor-based decisions. of academic judgment which are hard to review.
Is candidate A better than candidate B.? How is a court to know? The
court must defer to an academic judgment based upon expertise of the
admissions people.   What number of minority students is needed to
achieve the educational benefits of diversity? Is this precisely
quanitifiable without deference to the judgment of academics?   How does
a court determine the least discriminatory admission method that a
school can use to achieve diversity without second guessing  the
subjective academic judgment of the school as to how to best carry out
its educational mission? What if your lesser discriminatory means have
adverse effects on the school's ability to accomplish its other academic
goals? How is a court to objectively determine whether the school must
sacrifice these academic goals to use lesser discriminatory means?

So, to rigidly apply Croson to the state's academic judgment here, the
court must either 1) toss out diversity, 2)  require admissions by the
numbers, with either a minority quota (bakke), or an automatic numerical
diversity boost (Gratz). This way the court would have numbers to plug
into  its "narrowly tailored" statistical analyses. Is the numerical
diversity boost larger than necessary to achieve the discrete diversity
numerical goal?, or 3) require the state to sacrifice its other academic
missions  if doing so would achieve diversity by "race neutral means" .
(this is basically the Thomas/Scalia approach - if the school wants to
achieve diversity, it should be required to sacrifice selectivity,
before it can use race as a factor).

None of these approaches work. 1) Seven justices concluded diversity was
a compelling governmental interest,  so jettisoning it doesn't seem to
be an option, 2) The Court considers numerical diversity "boosts" even
more discriminatory and burdensome for nonminorities than the subjective
"race as a factor" analysis, and 3) Requiring a state to sacrifice its
central academic mission  or educational judgment to achieve an
admittedly compelling governmental goal seems a particularly perverse
price to demand. Must the state may achieve its  compelling governmental
interest only at the expense of every other academic and institutional
value?  Anyway, where does the Court get the expertise to make this
call.

Isn't it better  to simply recognize that 1)  the Croson non-deferential
narrowly statistical analysis simply doesn't fit the subjective academic
decisionmaking present here, and to require them simply distorts the
analysis in perverse ways, and 2) this "loosey-goosey" subjective
academic decisionmaking, however amorphous, is,  at least within
reasonable boundaries, the least burdensome means of achieving the
compelling governmental interest of diversity, 3) judicial deference to
academic judgment is is warranted, as O'connor noted, where you have no
evidence of racist, stereotypical or protectionist uses of race, which
she posited, the strict scrutiny analysis was designed to smoke out.

(Of course, as far as I can tell, for equal protection cases, the
Supreme Court has only explicitly applied strict scrutiny  to reverse
discrimination cases  - socalled "benign" discrimination  against white
plaintiffs (exception Korematsu, but, then  the smoke-out didn't work
too well there. Of course, the court ignored evidence of racist motives
for the internment - among which the Korematus policies' drafter,
General de Witt was a notorious racist. in any event, using race as one
factor in choosing among thousands of applicants for a few hundred
university seats to which no one applicant has any entitlement is
obvioulsy a less destructive use of ethnicity race than member of a
particular national origin  within a five state area in a concentration
camp is obviously a much more burdensome use of race than
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Professor Yvette M. Barksdale
Associate Professor of Law
The  John Marshall Law School
315 S. Plymouth Ct.
Chicago, IL 60604
(312) 427-2737
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> ----------
> From:         sweetm[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply To:     Discussion list for con law professors
> Sent:         Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:17 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:           Re: Puzzles re: Grutter and Korematsu
>
> A fairly recent book on the overview on the Court's use of these
standards
> (arguing they serve as a gatekeeper function) can be found in:
Gerstmann,
> Evan. 1999.   The Constitutional Underclass: Gays, Lesbians and the
Failure of
> Class-Based Equal Protection. Chicago: University of Chicago Press.
>
> On what the exact components mean, Croson, for example, had a much
more
> detailed explanation of what counts as "compelling" (statistical test
of
> disparity between available and utilized minority contractors) and
"narrowly
> tailored" (5 part test) than do the Bollinger cases. The circuit
courts
> following Croson battled it out for unanswered questions (e.g.,
post-enactment
> evidence, federal gov't vs. states, gender and disability standards,
standing)
> until the Court ruled again on some of these questions (Northeastern
> Contractors; Adarand).
>
> These Michigan cases are fairly weak on the details, but there are
some vague
> contours there that will be clarified over the next several years at
the lower
> court level.
>
>
> On another note, anyone else struck by (troubled) by the reliance on
social
> science for the proposition that diversity is a positive in education.
If a
> book comes along disputing (skewering) Shape of the River, should
Grutter be
> overruled?
>
> Martin J. Sweet
> Dickinson College
>
>
> >===== Original Message From Discussion list for con law professors
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =====>
> >        I have a minor (I hope) question about strict scrutiny and
Grutter.
> >Justice O'Connor maintains that the Court should defer to the
University
> >regarding whether diversity is essential to the University's
educational
> mission.
> >She then denies that this implies that the court's scrutiny is any
less
> strict
> >as a result. I seem to recall similar deference in Korematsu. My
> understanding
> >of strict scrutiny is that when the test is applied deference is
> >inappropriate. My question then is this: Is there a general account
(or for
> that matter
> >any account at all) of when (how?) deference is permissible when
strictly
> >scrutinizing government action.
> >
> >            One quick additional question.  Is there literature
specifically
> >examining the justification of judge-made tests such as "strict
scrutiny."
> >And, as a reporter asked yesterday, how do we know what the
definition of
> >"compelling purpose" or "narrow tailoring" is?   Thanks.
> >
> >
> >Bobby Lipkin
> >Widener University School of Law
> >Delaware
>
> *******************
> Martin J. Sweet
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Political Science
> Dickinson College
> Carlisle, PA 17013
>

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