-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 11/15/2013 07:29 PM, carlo von lynX wrote: > > No, we don't need to make that distinction. At the last meeting > there was a clear majority who only wants to get something solid > off the ground and doesn't care for legacy patchwork. > *** Then you need to distinguish GNU consensus from the rest of the working group, because I do care about "the minorities", and although I have a preference for GNUnet, I don't exclude "legacy patchwork". The role of this project is not to make judgments over the qualities of the various approaches. I prefer leaving that to the developers themselves.
> Since there are dozens of projects oriented on writing yet another > easy UI for PGP, there is no need to disturb this project with it. > *** I understand. So I propose this discussion goes on to the Socialswarm mailing-list alone, and when we have something to announce, we can use the GNU consensus. Otherwise, it mixes up the goals and means. > > Blackmail? Just assessing the situation. > *** I say it's blackmail for a government (agency) to force a company into betraying their customers. > A GNU Internet stack is barely enough. SMTP, the web, WebRTC, > XMPP.. is not. > > There must be at least one no-BS working group on earth. > *** Let it be the Social Swarm then. GNU consensus needs to include the way from here to there. Hopefully when GNUnet is ready, it will be trivial to mass-switch by the billions to a sane system. But more likely, a lot of people will keep dancing in the ball room until the ship wrecks. So, people, please subscribe to the socialswarm mailing list, if you're not there already, and let's keep this conversation there, without any mentions of non-P2P solutions: end of the year is coming fast. SocialSwarm mailing lists: https://socialswarm.net/en/participate/ == hk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJShqjAAAoJEEgGw2P8GJg9l2cP/3cgRj/9A3/ZY1dKCta5Zrxf nYulv/4wBNxZ6Vuimg7RQze54nL8vK222hJOEI0/SRHnIPuOPwzk/sA/QGQD7Ja6 8b0po4mMVQZkOZlJRHGDGwvhAwQxFNKwy9ebNbL/WQzimjJvXcnhJnQhvJgcQQjD 8AId2QZ6WXGIGallj9vVe1ogqdTso/E2WbEFitTH0VO6mXb80EljTjhfun4p6bOW 5GgXp8Q/d9eVoGVbkemJ1oj+fJ0QWL9nKfpSF430SE9/wPyxRzgK/796/LtdIp7r xXIv7J2gIePsf6DmrvzQW/Zr+nLeCDK5lGyZqBi4OaXLTqhkSXmcXE8XBFGj/RR8 CASisaJU1XtdQVMS4U+mP/X9WunHCJRlj9INYHk9UFeEyyOhhRpKno4FJ/lBDX6c f2mJ9Nh5rJCTKljyG/RF0lq2521W/L9W0ex4opMtWcgeLLa1R4joK1jW30TX63m4 q5+FyVmoDntvM27IKJPua2KypVWdSVn3yxMLyXFpQP4wowPonA/dd6kVLdI8gDuC ObkWD7xQfKLa9k7h6fEznyAERLX2tFqUT6qH6GCyamx1kLRgBuPQmCmvtsrSRncg lt/VcuR/MxhF361nFuRTzPyOg3qGrI1EO49YXk9k3PNPUMjToRycK2//7Js3gH57 LMN0rf1LuZInya9cO6zz =YWx2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
