On 20 November 2013 01:57, Simon Hirscher <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Nick Jennings <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I did participate in the meeting in Berlin in August as part of the > unhosted > > movement, specifically Sockethub and remoteStorage. Although we did > agree on > > those 4 points listed, there was no consensus on the conclusion being > "throw > > it all out and start over". > > No, and I don't think Carlo meant starting all over. He simply > repeated that our goal is to find, assemble or (if necessary) write > that piece or even stack of software that fulfills those 4 > requirements. And that's what the workshops @30C3 are going to be > about, right? > Im curious as to how it is possible to have "self determined data storage", yet also preclude use of the web to store that data? > > > Although I think what Carlo is doing is > > interesting and has a lot of potential, I think there are still many > things > > to be done to improve privacy and improve or create new paradigms for the > > responsibility of developing for the web, and expectations of users. > > Yes, there definitely are. And there're certainly several approaches > (like unhosted) that don't contradict those 4 points so we'll > eventually might talk about how to combine them (as we already started > to do). But our first and primary goal really need to be those 4 > points. I would have thought that we all agreed on this back in > Berlin? > -- > SocialSwarm mailing lists: https://socialswarm.net/en/participate/ > Websites: https://socialswarm.net/ https://wiki.socialswarm.net/ > Liquid Feedback: https://socialswarm.tracciabi.li/ > Digitalcourage, Bielefeld, Germany [email protected] >
