Hi Jeff,
No, I mean horizontal force. People don’t keep their own balance
or their own weight, especially if they have been told to “give weight”! They
lean back or sideways or press back against the Leftie’s supporting right hand.
That is what is tiring. That pressure is often much greater than the
centrifugal force.
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England [email protected] 01233 625 362 & 07802 940
574
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
From: Jeff Kaufman <[email protected]>
Sent: 25 March 2024 14:52
To: John Sweeney <[email protected]>
Cc: Shared Weight Contra Callers <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Re: Modified ballroom swing position: seeking more
conversation and info
Hi John,
I think people may be using two different things by "support" here? Julian and
I, along with a few others in this conversation, are using "support" to mean a
horizontal force, providing a counterbalancing force to resist the centrifugal
force that would otherwise send the two people off in opposite directions. I
think you're interpreting "support" to mean a vertical force, which I agree you
shouldn't need to provide.
If you're swinging quickly there really is quite a lot of centrifugal force.
Sometime I'd like to try getting some sort of scale involved to figure out how
much!
Jeff
On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:19 PM John Sweeney via Contra Callers
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Hi all,
You should NOT need to support the other person in a Swing. If
they are pulling away, leaning back or leaning sideways then take away your
connection until they take responsibility for their own weight and balance.
The shoulder-blade connection is purely to counteract centrifugal
force. That is not normally a lot of force, so it shouldn’t make you tired. I
Swing fast all night and never get tired arms because, having damaged
shoulders, I never let the other person make me support them.
I completely agree that the Rightie shouldn’t try to reach the
Leftie’s shoulder-blade. See six reasons why at
http://contrafusion.co.uk/LadysLeftHand.html
For good Swing technique please see
http://contrafusion.co.uk/Contra.html#swinging
Not everyone agrees with everything I say (but I think physics
does!). :-)
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> 01233 625 362 & 07802 940 574
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
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