On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Pascal Gagnon wrote:

> > On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Vincent Danen wrote:
> >
> > A couple of problems with what you're trying to do:
> >
> > 1) The mirrors installer does not reflect the state of the final 8.2
> > installer image.  I was never able to update it at the end of the cycle,
> > as I don't have direct write access.
> > 2) The RPM tree is incomplete, with several rather important files
> > missing.  Vincent had a certain advantage in that he synced the most
> > current stuff directly from me.  Explanation for the state of the mirrors
> > as far as RPMs is twofold:
> >
> >     a) Some RPMs, though valid versions, were rejected by the upload
> >     script I use to upload.
> >     b) Cooker has been frozen, so I haven't uploaded anything since
> >     Sept 2 or so.
> 
> Can that be source of my installation problems (both 8.2 and from coooker,
> see below) ?
> 

Should not have any impact on 8.2 install, if you are using the prebuilt
8.2 ISOs.  It will affect a "cooker" install, most definitely.

> > Finally, network installs aren't really intended to be done over the
> > internet.  The idea is to mirror the files locally on your own network,
> > and then do an install from your own ftp, http, nfs server.  If cooker was
> > live, there's a good chance the files would change on you in the middle of
> > your install, which would not play out well for your install.
> 
> I finally rsync everything from ftp.ciril.fr (then a gendistrib and al.) to
> do a hardrive install.
> 
> > An 8.2 install and updating via urpmi is probably your best bet at this
> > point, but you'll still get bitten by point #2 above.  Hopefully cooker
> > will re-open soon, and I'l be able to clean things up on the mirrors.
> 
> I tried, I tried and I tried. I just don't get how to go over the "glibc"
> dependencies without breaking everything.
> Any tips ? Should I use "auto-select" or go step by step ?
> 

Glibc just needs a symlink to retain compatiblity with the old apps (the
rpm is supposed to do this)

lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           11 Sep 12 00:04 /lib/ld.so.1 ->
ld-2.2.5.so

> > The net boot you were trying to do above requires you to have a local
> > tftpserver hosting the kernel images.  This is covered in the small guide
> > in the doc directory.
> 
> Tried it before. It failed probably because of my earlier openfirmware
> problem/corruption.
> Doesn't really matter now.
> 
> > Test mode install isn't really that bad.  The partitioning is the portion
> > that is probably the most different, mostly due to limitations of what you
> > can do with a console based app vs. gtk.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I agree it's not worst that 5 years ago when I joined this happy
> community...
> But I get however serious problems, maybe because I'm not a natural ppc guy.
> 
> 1- Individual packages choice doesn't work. I can add/remove but the real
> installation don't care. It just go with the "theme" choices (gnome, kde,
> office, internet, etc.) If you choose nothing (minimal install) it crash).
> So I choose only the "network client" to do a 8.2 minimal install.
> 
> 2- Locales-fr is never installed. I rather get locales-et. So I do a urpme
> of -et and urpmi of -fr after the reboot. I can live with this one.
> 

Haven't seen any of these issues until now with 8.2.  I don't know that
there is really that much of an advantage to doing a minimal install over
a normal default install if your intent is to upgrade to cooker.

> But:
> 
> 3- Only the "linux native" seems to work in the partitioning (8.2 and
> cooker). How should I spell "reiserfs" or "ext3, Ext3, Linux ext3" ?
> "reiserfs" and "ext3" passed but I never get the "format, type, resize"
> option. Only "create" on a smaller sized partition. If I persit (don't use
> create, exit then OK then the "partition to format: hda12, hda13 swap...), I
> get "Une erreur est survenue, Le montage a echoue"..."A error occur, fail to
> mount: invalid argument". Then I must reboot and start over and choose Linux
> native only.
> 

I don't have an install up in front of me, but I take it the text based
version doesn't offer the drop down with the filesystem type?

> 4- The formating (Linux native) during the COOKER installation seems to
> corrupt the fs. On reboot, I get the "do e2fsck -b 8193" etc... No matters
> how many e2fsck I tried to do (8193, 16385, ... there or by the rescue CD
> reboot) it stay unbootable. So I guess I must do a "upgrade install" or a
> full-install-without-reformatting from 8.2 to cooker...
> 
> I do it with the "theme" gnome this time.
> 
> 5- With the "Full-install-without-reformatting" I can't get X to works. It
> worked with 8.2. It don't like the mix of the new2.4.19 with X4.2 with r128
> (ati rage 128 mobility) I guess.
> "(EE)(R128) Could not... V_BIOS (5)" stuff
> 
> By googling a little, I tried many thing.
> The only that works (a little) is to do:
> "X -configure"
> copy the new Xconfigure.new file from /root/ --> /etc/X11/XFconfig-4.
> Replace "ati" by "fbdev"
> Replace the mouse "auto" and "/dev/mouse" options by "PS/2" and
> "/dev/usbmouse".
> Fire startx.
> It works (nice red screen with a moving "X") but gnome don't start.
> 
> What should I do next ?
> I'm close ain't ?
> 
> FYI, my "cooker hardrive installation" is in my /home partition (diff that
> /).
> 

I think I'm lost on what you're trying to accomplish.  Working 8.2 or
cooker?  As I said, cooker will have issues.  I doubt kde or gnome will be
fully functional, as a number of the needed files are not present on the
mirrors.  You should be able to get a functional command line environment
though, and probably X with a more basic window manager.

Your other alternative is to use the 8.2 update packages available on the
club, to get the newer apps.

Stew Benedict

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