from the quill of David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on scroll
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> My point in this thread itself is:
> 
> The longer you continue to treat and believe " Joe Average User" and 
> "Idiot" and " most common people" etc etc etc etc etc as if they are
> absolutely incapable of doing anything for them selves, the sooner
> they WILL turn around and kick you in the A**.......

While I will maintain that a huge portion of what I think any Linux
vendor would like it's market to be is that user (thinking of all of the
clerks, secretaries, execs, etc. that would not know a tty if you
pointed to it and told them that that is what it was) I will not argue
whether Joe Average User is computer-literate or not.

What I will argue however is that Joe Average User
_does_not_WANT_to_configure_a_UNIX_system.  He wants to run his apps and
get his work done, or play his games, or surf the Internet or ICQ or
whatever.

> and that translates into no sales, no support for an excellent distro
> etc etc etc on down the line, which translates into HUGH amounts of
> wasted creativity from the people that created all Linux distro's in
> the first place........

Not capturing Joe Average User will result in that, to be sure.

> Face it guys, Linux is going mainstream,

Yes.

> people are beginning to use it
> at work and home,

No and yes.  I don't think there is much of a "work" contingent yet. 
There is a niche installation here and there, but can you really point
to one office of clerks/secrataries/etc. that are using it, in the
majority?  It is making it's way into IT shops yes, but not onto
desktops.  No apps.

> It would be magical to pop a cd into your drive, and POOF, your
> computer is setup exactly tailored to your dreams and asperations on
> how you figure it should be, but as i have said, with no standards in
> anything , hardware software etc, those are absolute fantasies.

This is going way off the original point I was trying to make:  The user
configured during installation is not in the "audio" group which is
necessary if they are going to be able to hear sound on the gnome
desktop.

[ lots of philisophical tangents snipped ]

> I believe, the reason a great majority of users are coming to Linux
> now
> is because , un-like MS etc, they DO have actual control over there
> comp with Linux, un-like the dumb comp that MS et-al, have been
> serving
> us for years.....

Those are hackers.  The critical mass audience is NOT HACKERS!!

b.


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Brian J. Murrell                              InterLinx Support Services, Inc.
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