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On Tuesday 11 March 2003 16:10, Henri wrote:
> Henri a �crit:
> > Gary Greene a �crit:
> >> On Tuesday 11 March 2003 12:31 pm, Henri wrote:
> >>
> >> Gary Greene a �crit:
> >> >On Tuesday 11 March 2003 3:07 am, Henri wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Thanks !
> >> >Could it be possible that mandrake provides a precompiled kernel
> >>
> >> without
> >>
> >> >apic and detect at intall when the machine is a buggy one ?
> >> >(Of course if only the presario 7xx has the bug, it would be stupid...)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >This is how SuSE gets around this problem.
> >>
> >> Am i supposed to switch my notebook to another distrib "just" for that ?
> >> It is quit important for a notebook and i think that this mandrake
> >> version was supposed to be a easier one for notebook : zeroconf,
> >> switchprofiles...and apci is one of the main new features, so can't
> >> there be a special kernel for the buggy bios ? PLEEEAASE !!
> >>
> >>
> >> I believe I'd have to second that since I have a Presario 700E
> >> notebook that
> >> has exactly this problem. Before now I've been having to use SuSE on
> >> it, but
> >> if I can use Mandrake with out difficulties, I'd prefer that.
> >>
> >> About compiling a kernel, getting the kernel-source rpm, editing the
> >> config file and using rpm --rebuild should be ok, shouldn't it ?
> >> While talking about the kernel, isn't there anymore the kernel-header
> >> package ?? That means we have to download all sources just to compil an
> >> new driver (NVIDIA for ex) ???
> >>
> >> >And isn't it possible to use  "noapic apci=on" on boot instead of
> >> >recompiling ?
> >> >
> >> >Sascha Noyes a �crit:
> >> >>On Monday 10 March 2003 17:14, Henri wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>on presario 700 : upgraded 9.0 to rc2 : apci does not work.
> >> >>i made a non-expert upgrade, and packages apci and apcid were NOT
> >> >>installed by default.
> >> >>I went to control center->lilo config and then it installed it BUT
> >> >>TURNING IT ON FREEZE THE PC AT BOOT !
> >> >>using the non-fb entry, i can see it frozen on a the apci PCI
> >> >>detection....
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Sascha's obligatory Presario 700 message:
> >> >>
> >> >>This series of laptops has got bugs in its implementation of Power
> >> >>Management
> >> >>(which is done entirely with the newer ACPI and not the old APM). This
> >> >>causes
> >> >>the machine to lock up on boot with the default kernel. It is possible
> >> >>to boot the default kernel with the switch "acpi=off" added at boot
> >> >>time, but
> >> >>then power management is not available. (So the fan will go 100%
> >>
> >> all the
> >>
> >> >>time, etc.). It is therefore necessary to recompile the kernel without
> >> >>APIC
> >> >>(yes: without APIC, and with ACPI (they conflict) and ACPI is what is
> >> >>necessary for power management) to get power management features.
> >> >>
> >> >>See the following for a detailed how-to for getting everything
> >>
> >> working:
> >> >>http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/projects/laptop/tuxtop.html
> >
> > I've seen the last -13mdk kernel says apic is disabled on more
> > motherboard -> going to update from RC2 to this last kernel and tell
> > if that work.
>
> GREAT ! that is now working ! at least, i see the percentage of charge,
> if i'm on battery or not in kde !! Thanks to J. Quintela for this new
> update !!!
> Now, how to test suspend/hibernation etc modes ? it asks me for commands...
> thanks to all.

Exactly what model presario do you have? Because in the latest kernel there is 
an exclude for local apic set on the following Presario:

        { local_apic_kills_bios, "Compaq Pressario 711EA", {
                        MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "Compaq"),
                        MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "Presario 711EA 470030-327"),
                        MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VENDOR, "Compaq"),
                        MATCH(DMI_BOARD_NAME, "0760h"),
                        NO_MATCH
                        } },
So yours would have to be a 711EA, since mine (732US) does not work. (Don't be 
fooled by the "Presario 700" listed just below the screen on the laptop)? Is 
there some way to find this out on linux (ie. without comparing the 
components on some online shop? dmiscan? but how?)

Best, 
Sascha Noyes
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