-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11 March 2003 19:17, Henri wrote: > Sascha Noyes a �crit: > > On Tuesday 11 March 2003 16:10, Henri wrote: > > > > Henri a �crit: > > >Gary Greene a �crit: > > >>On Tuesday 11 March 2003 12:31 pm, Henri wrote: > > >> > > >>Gary Greene a �crit: > > >>>On Tuesday 11 March 2003 3:07 am, Henri wrote: > > >>> > > >>>Thanks ! > > >>>Could it be possible that mandrake provides a precompiled kernel > > >> > > >>without > > >> > > >>>apic and detect at intall when the machine is a buggy one ? > > >>>(Of course if only the presario 7xx has the bug, it would be > > >>> stupid...) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>This is how SuSE gets around this problem. > > >> > > >>Am i supposed to switch my notebook to another distrib "just" for that > > >> ? It is quit important for a notebook and i think that this mandrake > > >> version was supposed to be a easier one for notebook : zeroconf, > > >> switchprofiles...and apci is one of the main new features, so can't > > >> there be a special kernel for the buggy bios ? PLEEEAASE !! > > >> > > >> > > >>I believe I'd have to second that since I have a Presario 700E > > >>notebook that > > >>has exactly this problem. Before now I've been having to use SuSE on > > >>it, but > > >>if I can use Mandrake with out difficulties, I'd prefer that. > > >> > > >>About compiling a kernel, getting the kernel-source rpm, editing the > > >>config file and using rpm --rebuild should be ok, shouldn't it ? > > >>While talking about the kernel, isn't there anymore the kernel-header > > >>package ?? That means we have to download all sources just to compil an > > >>new driver (NVIDIA for ex) ??? > > >> > > >>>And isn't it possible to use "noapic apci=on" on boot instead of > > >>>recompiling ? > > >>> > > >>>Sascha Noyes a �crit: > > >>>>On Monday 10 March 2003 17:14, Henri wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>on presario 700 : upgraded 9.0 to rc2 : apci does not work. > > >>>>i made a non-expert upgrade, and packages apci and apcid were NOT > > >>>>installed by default. > > >>>>I went to control center->lilo config and then it installed it BUT > > >>>>TURNING IT ON FREEZE THE PC AT BOOT ! > > >>>>using the non-fb entry, i can see it frozen on a the apci PCI > > >>>>detection.... > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>Sascha's obligatory Presario 700 message: > > >>>> > > >>>>This series of laptops has got bugs in its implementation of Power > > >>>>Management > > >>>>(which is done entirely with the newer ACPI and not the old APM). > > >>>> This causes > > >>>>the machine to lock up on boot with the default kernel. It is > > >>>> possible to boot the default kernel with the switch "acpi=off" added > > >>>> at boot time, but > > >>>>then power management is not available. (So the fan will go 100% > > >> > > >>all the > > >> > > >>>>time, etc.). It is therefore necessary to recompile the kernel > > >>>> without APIC > > >>>>(yes: without APIC, and with ACPI (they conflict) and ACPI is what is > > >>>>necessary for power management) to get power management features. > > >>>> > > >>>>See the following for a detailed how-to for getting everything > > >> > > >>working: > > >>>>http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/projects/laptop/tuxtop.html > > > > > >I've seen the last -13mdk kernel says apic is disabled on more > > >motherboard -> going to update from RC2 to this last kernel and tell > > >if that work. > > > > GREAT ! that is now working ! at least, i see the percentage of charge, > > if i'm on battery or not in kde !! Thanks to J. Quintela for this new > > update !!! > > Now, how to test suspend/hibernation etc modes ? it asks me for > > commands... > > thanks to all. > > > > > > Exactly what model presario do you have? Because in the latest kernel > > there is > > an exclude for local apic set on the following Presario: > > > > { local_apic_kills_bios, "Compaq Pressario 711EA", { > > MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "Compaq"), > > MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "Presario 711EA 470030-327"), > > MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VENDOR, "Compaq"), > > MATCH(DMI_BOARD_NAME, "0760h"), > > NO_MATCH > > } }, > > So yours would have to be a 711EA, since mine (732US) does not work. > > (Don't be > > fooled by the "Presario 700" listed just below the screen on the > > laptop)? Is > > there some way to find this out on linux (ie. without comparing the > > components on some online shop? dmiscan? but how?) > > > > Best, > > Sascha Noyes > > Right, my notebook IS a 711EA (french model with a 950Mhz Duron CPU, i > believe). > To know which model you have, just look at at the back of your notebook > !!! Perhaps dmiscan does give the info, but it seems easier to look at > the ref written on the product, doesn't it ? > I don't want to make you cry, but now my notebook power down alone too, > and get silent when he has no activity for some minutes...sorry, but i'm > so happy i can't resist to tell it ;-))) Hope the problem will get > solved for you too anyway :) > I'll take a look at dmiscan tomorrow morning, now it's too late for my > poor eyes. > little stupid question : what is the problem with disabling apic support > ? I've seen it's about time CPU synchro (orsomething like that) but what > is the drawback of not enabling it ? And what is the link with acpi ????
Of course, I always miss the most obvious things (bottom of laptop). Thomas, my laptop states (on the bottom forDMI_PRODUCT_NAME) "Presario 732US 470033-480" Is this enough to go on or is DMI_BOARD_NAME also needed? Don't worry, tu ne me fait (fais? - excuse my french) pas pleurer, my laptop functions 99%, I just had to recompile the kernel. ;-) Regarding the link of apic and acpi. I don't know exactly why they conflict, I think it has something to do with PCI. APIC controlls the interrupts (exactly what that is I also don't know) for a cpu, and IIRC was designed to make interrupts work correctly for smp computers. (that's why one disables "local" apic). I also have no idea what the drawback of not enabling it is. It must be something otherwise why not just drop it. BTW, I noticed that when I wanted to disable apic i also had to disable pci hotswapping. So it seems that that is the only thing that it is good for, in which case i can say good riddance and I don't know why Mandrake even bothers with it. Oh well. Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+boEigzJdfX+cTW8RAnOYAKCtrfnI6ZaEYfmmDoGLJIoRMKtwWACfYFnI rehSp1XjZiXhsspTjKfU7+U= =UKeG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
