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Jason Straight wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 June 2003 01:42 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
>>>2. Who ever switches network cables and needs to have it reconfigured for
>>>them?
>>
>>Users (ie not admins).
>>
>>
>>>I mean how often does someone really travel to another location with
>>>another network and not reboot and restart?
>>
>>Every time they us a cross-over cable to transfer something.
>
> That happens more often than using mdk on desktops?
>

Since it is done with many of the desktops (most users only have one
network point near them, if they want to transfer files to a laptop,
they use the cross-over cable). So, using a crossover cable between two
machines is much more common than using mdk on desktops, and not having
it working on mdk desktops could kill our plans ...

>
>>Do you really think I want to tell our director over an international
>>cellphone call how to restart the network and/or configure routes to
>>transfer files to a windows machine which has now auto-configured itself?
>
>
> ifplugd is only going to restart ethX with the config in the ifup
script, so
> it's going to come back up the same way anyway - so if it's DHCP it's not
> that hard to have him run dhclient to renew.
>

And it's also not difficult to compile a kernel, if you know how ...

>>It's not dangerous, it only highilghted the dangers you had in your
>>network (ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 would have killed your network in the
>>same way ...).
>
>
> Yeah, but I would have done that manually and would expect it

You would still be vulnerable ...

> - I didn't
> expect 3 machines to die when I restarted the switch and not come back up
> with the routes and arp config the way I left them. Automation like
that is
> anal. I have problems with XP disabling the wireless clients sometimes
> because of the hotplug detect network connection it has. I wish it
would just
> leave them alone - if I configure something my way I don't expect some
> program to go and take the liberty of changing it for what it thinks I
want.

Well, AFAIK, you can't even disable this on Windows, and you can easily
on Mandrake.

Regards,
Buchan

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