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Please note, this is a development list, if you want a list for
"Mandrakesoft business strategy", maybe you can find someone to host
such as list, but this one is not for discussing Mandrakesoft business
strategy, and I am quite sure no posts to this list by and Mandrakesoft
employee should be taken as company policy ...


Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 13:29, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>

> Which is a moot point since if you are not going to pay any attention to
> users that have *purchased* a vote, what then convinces anyone that you
> will put a priority on users that HAVE NOT purchased a vote? Who you are
> *not* listening to anyway any more than the paying ones?
>
> Basically your paragraph above is another way of saying that basically
> the MandrakeClub users' opinions have no impact greater than the other
> (non-paying) users,

What about users who are not members, but contribute (not financially)
to Mandrakesoft?

Are MandrakeClub members the only people who pay (commercially)?

> again about whose wishes you are as ignorant as the
> Mandrakeclub user's wishes and polls, and thus further emphasizes what I
> have been saying for some time now, which is that the money that Club
> members pay puts absolutely NO priority on their voting input/opinions
> and therefore can be equated to being the same thing as a propaganda
> scam.  Thanks and no thanks for the vindication.
>

Sorry, but the voting for RPMS for 9.1 did influence the packages that
were put in the main distro and included in PowerPack (which does not
inlcude all of contrib). Search the archives for that.

>>I wasn't even aware of the results of the presence and results of
>>those polls. I was only aware that people wanted that we rebuild
>>8.2 version on more recent releases.
>
>
> Let me get this straight.  You are a Mandrakesoft developer and are
> completely unaware of what the MandrakeClub user/members wishes are with
> regard to the Mandrake Distribution, and some of it's interfaces which
> you are responsible for developing.

That's an unfounded statement, many users interact on this list and via
bugzilla.

> Further, as a developer and a
> person responsible for key user interfaces you are completely unaware of
> paying Mandrake club user/member vote polls that explain Mandrake club
> user/member preferences regarding said key user interfaces, even though
> you are a paid employee of Mandrakesoft, the same company that created
> the Mandrakeclub and the Mandrakeclub polls.  (???????)
>

1)As far as I can see, there has been no poll on "Do you prefer the UI
from rpmdrake in 8.2 to the new version".

Maybe you can show me, since I don't see it here:
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/pollBooth.php

2)MandrakeClub should be responsible for ensuring that this input is
communicated to the development team, who handle requests from other
users also, many who contribute in various ways. The developers
shouldn't necessarily be repsonsible for tracking everything that
happens on MandrakeClub.

3)MandrakeClub's primary reason for existence is to give people who get
their distro via alternate means (downloading etc) an easy way to give
back, with the possibility of influencing the development, and for other
possible added benefits, and is advertised only as such.

> I'm just going to stop digging with this one shovel and let you do all
> the work since you are digging your own hole now with three backhoes and
> a bulldozer.

Well, this list *is* for development, something you may not have noticed ...

Regards,
Buchan

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