Without getting too many feathers ruffled, it does seem to me that
enhancement requests seem to fall on deaf ears.

I have tried other distros and Mandrake is the best, so I'm willing to give
my time, talent, and opinion on the matter. The solution is never "go find
another distribution".

The idea of showing what is already installed or can be installed/upgraded
would be very nice, ala SuSE Yast. 

Also, maybe if there is a concern about "bloat" and load time, maybe we can
enable/disable features with switches? 

Cory

-----Original Message-----
From: Lyvim Xaphir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed*
software


On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:14, Tom Brinkman wrote:

>    Ya know LX, IMO, you're gettin way out'a line. First the prime
> motivation for many join'n the Club was to support free (speech) 
> software, particularly MandrakeSoft. I know it was mine. That'n to 
> avoid being a freeloader.  Many, as myself, contributed long before 
> there was a Club. Many renewed early last fall, as myself, when it 
> was apparent Mandrake was in trouble.  No vote expected or any 
> other expectations, just future hope and appreciation for past 
> service.  Get over your gripes or go for some other distro, or OS. 
> Either way GC doesn't deserve this kind of berating.  Try'n offer 
> some constructive criticism that already hasn't been beat to death.

Maybe you're right, Tom.  But this is what I believe to be true, and if I
had not come forth and stated what I believed in with no uncertain terms,
then I would not have been being truthful about the matter.

I'm a silver member myself and I've been passing out copies of cooker 9.1 to
neighbors in order to get some help in with the testing process, so we can
have a better product in the end.  Because believe it or not, I do want this
distro to succeed.  I don't have as much investment time as the developers
here, but I have been in this since almost the first release of Mandrake,
and I've been pushing it on people ever since.  And companies.

I don't mean to step on GC, he after all is doing a good job on the project
he was told to do, according to  the bidding of the ephemeral "ergonomics
team", whom I never heard about until today.  But my frustration regarding
this has been great because I just can't understand how such a dichotomy or
information gap can exist between the user's statements and the development
team; especially when there is a mechanism in place to address that very
issue.  It *does not* make sense.  I am certain that there are others that
have the same feelings about this, but it seems I am just one of the few
that have the temerity to stick my neck out on it.

But I've honestly stated my peace on this and others have stated theirs.
That's what this list is all about.  So if they are willing to leave things
as they are then so am I.

--LX

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