"MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Without getting too many feathers ruffled, it does seem to me that
> enhancement requests seem to fall on deaf ears.
> 
> I have tried other distros and Mandrake is the best, so I'm willing to give
> my time, talent, and opinion on the matter. The solution is never "go find
> another distribution".
> 
> The idea of showing what is already installed or can be installed/upgraded
> would be very nice, ala SuSE Yast. 

Again, I want to state that I do agree that for advanced users, I
do understand "old" rpmdrake is better.

And, please remember, "first" rpmdrake, written in Perl by pixel,
was much more simple than "old" rpmdrake.

I think "old" rpmdrake was like that, because it was designed
with advanced users in mind, and it followed (nice) solutions
from advanced/cooker/etc users.

"New" rpmdrake was designed following our belief (motivated by
several user experiences and us trying to think hard what
beginners would experience) that "old" rpmdrake was "frightening"
and beginners had a hard time understanding the GUI at first
sight. We decided that each tool needs to stay simple, do one
thing and do it well, to be suitable for beginners. We also
decided that DrakX approach was better (show dependencies when
selecting package, not after "install" button is clicked).

I think current rpmdrake is good for beginners, old one was too
complicated for beginners. I understand this is frustrating for
many advanced users, though a part of the rationale is also that
most advanced users will tend to prefer urpmi.

(Argh, I said I would not repeat myself about the whole story..
but since so many people are in the discussion in a
non-aggressive manner I felt it was better to state again our
main points)

> Also, maybe if there is a concern about "bloat" and load time, maybe we can
> enable/disable features with switches? 

That makes a rather large difference, I don't think maintaining
such a feature under a switch will be doable in the real world.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

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